[00:00:33] I suppose the host would be Paramuriceid. [00:00:53] not sure.... [00:01:00] LAT : 28.781396 , LON : -179.12814 , DEPTH : 1393.2983 m, TEMP : 2.72108 C, SAL : 34.50643 PSU, DO : 1.41471 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:01:13] Primnoid could be Narella [00:02:32] I still suppose that hydrozoan overgrown on Paramuriceid. [00:02:58] whats the large colony to the left? [00:06:01] LAT : 28.781541 , LON : -179.128143 , DEPTH : 1391.7566 m, TEMP : 2.73315 C, SAL : 34.5033 PSU, DO : 1.42155 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:06:16] Hemicorallium? [00:06:21] samcuellar leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:07:11] lets laser [00:07:15] briankennedy leaves the room [00:07:41] lauraanthony leaves the room [00:09:33] samcuellar leaves the room [00:11:01] LAT : 28.781608 , LON : -179.128375 , DEPTH : 1393.9615 m, TEMP : 2.74711 C, SAL : 34.49906 PSU, DO : 1.35612 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:12:37] Chaunax? [00:13:10] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [00:14:08] lauraanthony leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:16:01] LAT : 28.78164 , LON : -179.12844 , DEPTH : 1393.5496 m, TEMP : 2.76377 C, SAL : 34.4957 PSU, DO : 1.38419 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:20:14] this is another metallo like Chrysogorgia [00:21:02] LAT : 28.781802 , LON : -179.12854 , DEPTH : 1392.0297 m, TEMP : 2.75965 C, SAL : 34.4973 PSU, DO : 1.40352 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:21:55] cannot see inner tentacles... [00:22:07] yet [00:22:20] should be there [00:26:03] LAT : 28.781918 , LON : -179.128537 , DEPTH : 1388.3041 m, TEMP : 2.75742 C, SAL : 34.49735 PSU, DO : 1.37637 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:29:36] lauraanthony leaves the room [00:31:04] LAT : 28.781966 , LON : -179.128546 , DEPTH : 1388.2194 m, TEMP : 2.75506 C, SAL : 34.49778 PSU, DO : 1.36494 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:33:12] chat-admin leaves the room [00:36:04] LAT : 28.782059 , LON : -179.128453 , DEPTH : 1386.1697 m, TEMP : 2.7517 C, SAL : 34.49635 PSU, DO : 1.35146 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:36:21] thank you! [00:36:35] and stolonifera! [00:37:30] for when val gets back - 1435 seeing some rounded laminated rocks. weathered exposure? [00:37:33] looks like lava! [00:37:35] aaaand basalt right next to it [00:38:51] columunar joint? [00:39:21] we're back in basalt? [00:39:25] nice! [00:39:27] yay! [00:39:29] VAL [00:39:31] IM GOING CRAZY [00:39:47] this is literally. right next to laminated rocks that look weathered (was I seeing a wave cut???) [00:39:50] This is a cool volcano! [00:39:54] this is SO COOL [00:40:11] Paramuriceid. [00:40:18] two species might be? [00:40:23] not sure.. [00:40:55] polyps all around. [00:41:05] LAT : 28.782077 , LON : -179.12849 , DEPTH : 1386.3818 m, TEMP : 2.75012 C, SAL : 34.49898 PSU, DO : 1.33018 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:41:33] the lower colony do not have whitish branches [00:41:44] whitish sclerites I mean. [00:46:06] LAT : 28.782182 , LON : -179.128557 , DEPTH : 1379.0677 m, TEMP : 2.75518 C, SAL : 34.49629 PSU, DO : 1.36942 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:48:39] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [00:51:06] LAT : 28.782197 , LON : -179.128533 , DEPTH : 1381.3784 m, TEMP : 2.74947 C, SAL : 34.49838 PSU, DO : 1.40838 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:51:17] yap [00:52:16] I'm curios that we haven't seen any Acanthogorgiid... [00:53:25] Asako, have we seen any Acanthogorgiids on other expeditions in PMNM? I can't remember [00:54:42] Val, I remember that we saw Paramuriceid and Acanthogorgiid together at Nautilus. I suppose Meagan Putts's watch. [00:55:28] two yellow colony on the rock and when we had a zoom, one was Paramuriceid and another one was Acanthogorgiid. [00:55:29] ooo! gorgonocephalid! [00:55:48] one of many Chris Mah! [00:56:00] like, five [00:56:05] Hmm okay, that is interesting. Maybe not super common around here? [00:56:08] LAT : 28.782115 , LON : -179.128538 , DEPTH : 1377.7686 m, TEMP : 2.75565 C, SAL : 34.49788 PSU, DO : 1.40815 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [00:57:48] Rhodaniridogorgia? [00:58:33] Tritoia [00:58:39] Sorry.. Tritonia [00:59:02] ohh this yellow coral has whitish branches [00:59:07] all around. [01:00:09] Val. well, maybe we already have Acanthogorgiid here. but its impossible to distinguish without zoom. they looks similar from the distance. [01:01:07] LAT : 28.782303 , LON : -179.128459 , DEPTH : 1371.4947 m, TEMP : 2.74823 C, SAL : 34.49938 PSU, DO : 1.39716 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:01:29] Paramuriceid. [01:02:13] Acanthogorgiid has visible "spiny" sclerites like as some species of bamboo. [01:02:18] christophermah leaves the room [01:02:35] Oh yeah, that's tricky! Asako, I am blown away at the level of ID in this chat. I've learned so much over the last few years from you and others who help out! [01:04:25] Val, I am learning geology from you!! but I'm not a good student )) [01:05:03] these Hemicorallium must be VERY old... [01:05:07] : D [01:05:11] wow! look at that [01:05:17] christophermah leaves the room [01:05:56] the largest Coralliid colony community during this expedition. [01:06:07] LAT : 28.782412 , LON : -179.128581 , DEPTH : 1372.2522 m, TEMP : 2.75995 C, SAL : 34.49155 PSU, DO : 1.38073 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:06:37] Brian, is the dating done with U-series? [01:06:53] I'd assume u series [01:07:20] No worries! I'll poke around [01:07:41] looks like radiocarbon [01:07:44] roark pnas maybe? [01:07:53] Sara, was about to say the same! I worked briefly with someone at UH who did U series with both hard rock and shallow corals [01:07:54] christophermah leaves the room [01:08:08] https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.0810875106 [01:08:11] oh, carbon, cool! [01:09:16] lindasunderland leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [01:11:07] LAT : 28.782388 , LON : -179.12874 , DEPTH : 1367.3212 m, TEMP : 2.75312 C, SAL : 34.49844 PSU, DO : 1.36977 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [01:11:20] Great shot, pilots and video [01:12:50] christophermah leaves the room [01:12:57] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [01:13:43] wow [01:13:57] mostly coralliidae.... [01:14:37] Would it be possible to do some snap zooms on the exposed skeleton bases of the bigger coralliid colonies? Wondering if there is any evidence of dissolution at this depth [01:15:37] can do laura! [01:15:45] Thank you! [01:15:47] will look for a good one, sorry got distracted [01:16:08] LAT : 28.782563 , LON : -179.128558 , DEPTH : 1364.4628 m, TEMP : 2.76531 C, SAL : 34.49654 PSU, DO : 1.36881 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [01:16:15] christophermah leaves the room [01:16:25] And these places hold so much knowledge about the planet itself [01:18:07] chiton [01:18:24] We've seen some dissolution of the skeleton of hemicorallium right at the base in other seamounts around the seamount [01:18:26] oh, we can see the cross section of Hemicorallium [01:19:02] Hoping to get a relative depth of where the magnesium-calcite saturation depth might be in the monument [01:19:05] gotcha [01:19:11] also can zoom in on another big one up ridge [01:19:41] Sounds great, thank you! Not seeing much dissolution like we've seen at about 2,000 meters which is interesting! [01:20:09] it impresses me there's so many of those chitons! [01:20:36] rtrying to describe calcite saturation depth while guiding science mission is tough [01:20:38] haha [01:20:52] we're at 1365m right now on d2 depth [01:21:09] LAT : 28.782543 , LON : -179.128613 , DEPTH : 1365.5559 m, TEMP : 2.76501 C, SAL : 34.4966 PSU, DO : 1.37285 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:21:14] is this dissolution or eaten by someone else? [01:21:32] such as Nud or star [01:21:45] My guess is some boring animal rather than dissolution [01:21:50] christophermah leaves the room [01:23:38] Thank you Laura for your idea [01:23:53] christophermah leaves the room [01:26:10] LAT : 28.782546 , LON : -179.128592 , DEPTH : 1367.4939 m, TEMP : 2.76154 C, SAL : 34.49583 PSU, DO : 1.36695 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:26:15] I'm surprised that with all this coral and sponge..there's no sea stars feeding on them! [01:28:14] christophermah leaves the room [01:30:43] amazing... [01:31:03] btw, how many basckets on one colony [01:31:10] LAT : 28.782655 , LON : -179.128591 , DEPTH : 1366.0721 m, TEMP : 2.76436 C, SAL : 34.49604 PSU, DO : 1.35386 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1709 FTU [01:31:15] 5-6? [01:31:26] snail and Stolonifera [01:31:51] christophermah leaves the room [01:32:36] Interesting! Could be some dissolution or some sort of skeleton boring animal! [01:32:44] next one,, its not connected with stolons [01:33:50] christophermah leaves the room [01:35:41] ha ha. I feel I contributed today! [01:35:56] chris, you contributed so much! [01:36:12] LAT : 28.782741 , LON : -179.128778 , DEPTH : 1367.6336 m, TEMP : 2.76925 C, SAL : 34.49639 PSU, DO : 1.36688 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:36:15] As did Val, Asako, Kelly, Laura, Chris K., George... SO many folks! [01:36:20] keep it alive and feed it some krill or something [01:38:59] christophermah leaves the room [01:39:53] do you think already EtOH'ed amphipods would work? [01:40:02] The seamounts are really giving us a show. Love it [01:40:17] I'm happy to be here with all of you, Sara! [01:40:46] EX2503_DIVE10 ROV Ascending [01:40:55] Thank you Asako :-) [01:40:57] beautiful dive today! [01:40:58] Solaster namake [01:41:07] the one I named from this area [01:41:12] LAT : 28.782836 , LON : -179.128853 , DEPTH : 1364.3088 m, TEMP : 2.76436 C, SAL : 34.49514 PSU, DO : 1.37668 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:41:16] Note for Chris- possibly fewer feeding seastars because the corallium have relatively small lipid-rich egg cells compared to corals like bamboos (at least what I've seen so far) [01:41:18] named for the Hawaiian god Namake [01:42:07] thanks Laura! food for thought! [01:42:13] great dive!!!! Thank you very much. [01:42:18] Thanks for a great dive, team! Take care [01:42:26] thanks for the dive! [01:42:40] Great dive! [01:43:02] kellymarkello leaves the room [01:43:19] briankennedy leaves the room [01:43:23] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [01:43:49] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [01:43:57] oooo! [01:45:02] samcuellar leaves the room [01:45:02] valfinlayson leaves the room [01:45:23] christophermah leaves the room [01:46:12] lauraanthony leaves the room [01:46:13] LAT : 28.782442 , LON : -179.129121 , DEPTH : 1330.7185 m, TEMP : 2.84779 C, SAL : 34.48593 PSU, DO : 1.28547 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:51:13] LAT : 28.782405 , LON : -179.129091 , DEPTH : 1186.7279 m, TEMP : 3.13078 C, SAL : 34.43673 PSU, DO : 1.09271 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:52:43] soniarowley leaves the room [01:56:14] LAT : 28.782438 , LON : -179.129195 , DEPTH : 1029.2496 m, TEMP : 3.60383 C, SAL : 34.3412 PSU, DO : 0.91511 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:01:15] LAT : 28.782528 , LON : -179.129177 , DEPTH : 874.8601 m, TEMP : 4.2666 C, SAL : 34.21939 PSU, DO : 1.23836 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:06:15] LAT : 28.78279 , LON : -179.12919 , DEPTH : 723.0245 m, TEMP : 5.34182 C, SAL : 34.07827 PSU, DO : 2.40378 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:11:16] LAT : 28.782967 , LON : -179.128735 , DEPTH : 568.3541 m, TEMP : 7.39514 C, SAL : 34.02364 PSU, DO : 4.65192 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:16:17] LAT : 28.783058 , LON : -179.128101 , DEPTH : 417.2758 m, TEMP : 11.00214 C, SAL : 34.21275 PSU, DO : 6.20697 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [02:21:17] LAT : 28.783416 , LON : -179.127393 , DEPTH : 266.5709 m, TEMP : 14.47965 C, SAL : 34.47241 PSU, DO : 6.654 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [02:21:26] dhugallindsay leaves the room [02:26:18] LAT : 28.783525 , LON : -179.126864 , DEPTH : 126.4959 m, TEMP : 17.4988 C, SAL : 34.69196 PSU, DO : 7.10798 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0794 FTU [02:31:18] LAT : 28.783697 , LON : -179.126196 , DEPTH : 53.1822 m, TEMP : 20.564 C, SAL : 35.14553 PSU, DO : 7.29593 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [02:31:53] shark! [02:32:37] dhugallindsay leaves the room [02:34:57] EX2503_DIVE10 ROV on Surface [02:45:32] chat-admin leaves the room [02:48:44] EX2503_DIVE10 ROV Recovery Complete [02:52:09] EX2503_DIVE10 ROV powered off [05:20:29] okexnav leaves the room [05:50:49] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [13:44:35] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [17:15:48] Test message DIVE 11 [18:19:41] EX2503_DIVE11 ROV Launch [18:23:26] kellymarkello leaves the room [18:26:01] EX2503_DIVE11 ROV on Surface [18:26:05] lindasunderland leaves the room [18:27:07] EX2503_DIVE11 ROV Descending [18:27:55] LAT : 29.671011 , LON : 179.348425 , DEPTH : 22.0592 m, TEMP : 19.31814 C, SAL : 34.8339 PSU, DO : 7.55588 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.116 FTU [18:29:24] lindasunderland leaves the room [18:32:56] LAT : 29.670994 , LON : 179.348819 , DEPTH : 59.8238 m, TEMP : 18.08514 C, SAL : 34.69366 PSU, DO : 7.71884 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1526 FTU [18:37:56] LAT : 29.670944 , LON : 179.34902 , DEPTH : 172.9171 m, TEMP : 16.14733 C, SAL : 34.59709 PSU, DO : 7.16137 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:42:57] LAT : 29.670993 , LON : 179.349219 , DEPTH : 323.0663 m, TEMP : 13.38369 C, SAL : 34.41088 PSU, DO : 6.81026 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1343 FTU [18:45:30] kellymarkello leaves the room [18:45:45] was it an oceanic whitetp? Saw these in images from the last 2 dives at least. [18:45:58] it was a white tip [18:46:08] hatchetfish? [18:47:57] LAT : 29.670956 , LON : 179.34943 , DEPTH : 466.3652 m, TEMP : 9.61893 C, SAL : 34.13308 PSU, DO : 6.26724 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [18:52:58] LAT : 29.671197 , LON : 179.348996 , DEPTH : 524.3635 m, TEMP : 7.69292 C, SAL : 34.02893 PSU, DO : 5.28394 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0977 FTU [18:54:35] EX2503_DIVE11 ROV on Bottom [18:56:45] briankennedy leaves the room [18:57:15] christophermah leaves the room [18:57:59] LAT : 29.671181 , LON : 179.348887 , DEPTH : 538.5037 m, TEMP : 7.3588 C, SAL : 34.01627 PSU, DO : 5.04171 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:58:47] yes we have had whitetips around the ship the last two days [18:59:11] Yes! at least three, and we think at least one might be the same individual (following us?) [19:01:22] no swim call! [19:02:59] LAT : 29.671162 , LON : 179.348894 , DEPTH : 538.0435 m, TEMP : 7.41141 C, SAL : 34.02139 PSU, DO : 5.10502 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:04:02] fishes also unqiue 250- 500 m from CAPSTONE analysis - the Selig et al paper [19:06:29] christophermah leaves the room [19:06:45] and the fish! [19:06:54] Going to be alot of Paramuriceidae sp. today I think [19:07:01] and Hemicorallium sp [19:07:16] thanks! [19:07:59] LAT : 29.671152 , LON : 179.348949 , DEPTH : 538.2636 m, TEMP : 7.38068 C, SAL : 34.01674 PSU, DO : 5.05776 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:13:00] LAT : 29.671156 , LON : 179.348868 , DEPTH : 537.9027 m, TEMP : 7.36533 C, SAL : 34.01731 PSU, DO : 5.04527 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:13:22] They can be bicolor. Hemicorallium laauense is known from this depth and can be bicolor but its not possible to tell for sure without a detailed morphological exam. [19:13:26] christophermah leaves the room [19:13:32] lauraanthony leaves the room [19:13:39] It wouldn't surprise me if this rubble is mostly from Hemicorallium [19:13:59] Yeah ,it's looking similar -- planning to get a sed sample with rubble to check it out, steve! [19:14:46] VAL hi we are on a reef!! [19:14:50] Hello! [19:14:54] Oh nice! [19:15:34] Current is making it difficult to tell, too bouncy. Maybe Paracalyptrophora [19:15:54] possibly alpheid? [19:16:07] for the transparent gravid shrimp [19:16:15] awesome thanks Kelly! [19:17:38] zoom on small crinoid? [19:18:01] LAT : 29.671138 , LON : 179.348861 , DEPTH : 535.5407 m, TEMP : 7.41454 C, SAL : 34.02188 PSU, DO : 5.1237 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:18:06] oo good eye! will do after fish [19:18:09] christophermah leaves the room [19:18:33] Ugh! No help on this. My head is still on shallow reefs in Curacao and my Hawaii info is on campus in my office! Poor prep on my part! [19:19:20] Beautiful close-up. Jeff Drazen ans company will put names on these. [19:19:30] that works for me [19:19:38] thanks sorry kelly! [19:19:45] looking similar? [19:19:56] probably! [19:21:17] As a general note, small squat lobsters that you might see in the reef cracks and crevices are high liklihood for new species targets. If you're slurping and you see one, they would be really valuable [19:21:42] thar's good for me on crinoid [19:22:40] thanks! [19:22:45] thanks! sorry I think video wanted a close up of rock [19:23:02] LAT : 29.671128 , LON : 179.348829 , DEPTH : 536.758 m, TEMP : 7.69074 C, SAL : 34.02597 PSU, DO : 5.25558 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:24:01] That is a huge urchin [19:24:10] looks like an echinothurid [19:24:19] i agree with chris [19:24:30] wow you can see the peds [19:24:34] pedicellariae [19:24:38] pancake urchin [19:24:46] nasty! don't touch that [19:24:54] oh wow.. those pedicellariae are open and grabby [19:25:24] these are related to fire urchins in shallows. [19:25:34] the deep ones are also venemous.. allegedly. [19:26:07] well pronounced! [19:26:17] thank you george :') [19:26:29] probably little cidaroid [19:27:04] ding ding ding! [19:28:03] LAT : 29.671085 , LON : 179.348796 , DEPTH : 535.2881 m, TEMP : 7.7791 C, SAL : 34.0305 PSU, DO : 5.33049 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:28:07] ho wow. can we collect? [19:28:09] audio seems a little behind the video [19:28:29] I'm VERY happyt! [19:28:39] Okay!!! woohoo! [19:28:43] and George will ask video. [19:28:52] similar to one I've seen in Costa rica! [19:29:10] Interesting to see. It is commonly thought that the yellow gorgonians (and other paramuriceid relatives) are chemically defended. Aparently not this one! [19:29:41] Chris Mah, what's your field ID for this urchin [19:29:55] similar to Hippasteria [19:30:14] if you can get a piece of the coral that would be super too! [19:30:24] these are pretty tough so grabby arm would be fine [19:30:31] Great, and yes, can try to get coral as well! [19:33:03] LAT : 29.671155 , LON : 179.348853 , DEPTH : 535.0132 m, TEMP : 7.67966 C, SAL : 34.02775 PSU, DO : 5.29911 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:33:20] white gastropod under stingray [19:34:10] christophermah leaves the room [19:34:34] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [19:34:54] georgematsumoto leaves the room [19:35:18] ray could be plesiobatis daviesi [19:35:28] and it's a female [19:35:52] similar to the ones spotted by Nautilus in Sept 2024 - E Mamana Ou Gataifale II expedition (NA165) is led by Ocean Exploration Trust and funded by NOAA Ocean Exploration, NOAA Office of Marine and Aviation Operations Uncrewed Systems Operations Center, and the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management via the Ocean Exploration Cooperative Institute in partnership with the National Marine Sanctuary of American Samoa [19:36:01] the pointy snout is stumping me [19:36:06] coralliid rubble [19:36:06] lindasunderland leaves the room [19:37:07] bathytoshia? https://www.marinelifephotography.com/fishes/rays/dasyatis-lata.htm [19:37:54] georgematsumoto leaves the room [19:38:04] ha. is this what geologists feel like when biology takes over? :-) [19:38:06] LAT : 29.671076 , LON : 179.348882 , DEPTH : 535.7432 m, TEMP : 7.47055 C, SAL : 34.03389 PSU, DO : 5.03179 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:38:42] steve. what is a corallid [19:38:47] And YES chris this is how we feel when bilogy takes over [19:39:12] it could be bathytoshia! would be pretty close to the bottom of their depth range [19:39:33] Yeah, not sure if it's real but I read they have been reported down to 800m. [19:39:39] I'm terrible with rays though Trish [19:40:28] i am more of a sharky shark person, the flat sharks always stump me :S [19:40:52] oh! all of the pedicellariae are open! [19:41:07] oh yeah.. undescribed! [19:42:18] sorry.. who is the food species? [19:42:40] Paramuriceid likely [19:42:47] but Steve is that right? [19:42:50] thank you! [19:43:05] LAT : 29.671106 , LON : 179.348804 , DEPTH : 534.2444 m, TEMP : 7.79778 C, SAL : 34.04138 PSU, DO : 5.35135 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:44:51] trishalbano leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [19:45:18] chris is the star pooping [19:45:22] OH! what is that? [19:45:33] @Sara probably. [19:45:38] FIRST TIME! [19:45:51] never seen it before! [19:46:22] not in Hippasteria..if that's what it is. [19:46:50] oooo! pooping was worth waiting for that fish. coolarino! [19:47:10] ooo wow! okay! [19:47:22] Pooping was fantastic we love to see it [19:47:38] ha ha...too bad we couldn't save any of it! [19:47:47] or maybe its in the box! [19:47:48] we might get some in the box, we can see! [19:47:52] I always dig around afterwards [19:47:56] if so I will grab it for ya :-) [19:48:00] Love me a good gut content analysis [19:48:02] *laugh* [19:48:07] LAT : 29.671111 , LON : 179.348793 , DEPTH : 534.9535 m, TEMP : 7.81689 C, SAL : 34.03742 PSU, DO : 5.35432 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:48:08] ;) [19:48:24] Hippasteria sarakhanamokuae n. sp.? [19:49:09] If there’s any chance that some of the Paramuriceid could be preserved for histo, that would be great :) [19:50:07] so 10% formalin? [19:50:13] trishalbano leaves the room [19:50:27] make sure the star is ethanol.. no formalin [19:50:45] Yes please :) for the coral [19:50:50] copy that Chris I was asking Emily about the coral [19:50:56] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [19:50:57] understood. [19:51:01] lindasunderland leaves the room [19:52:03] oh.. and thanks to all! [19:52:33] (And if Sara could bring the little bit back with them to UH… that would be great! XD) [19:52:56] Apologies for the confusion Chris [19:53:06] LAT : 29.671149 , LON : 179.348678 , DEPTH : 531.1724 m, TEMP : 8.1735 C, SAL : 34.05379 PSU, DO : 5.55654 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:53:18] no worries.. simply being clear. [19:53:22] Chris Mah very sweet with the species name but I would be mortified to have a species named after me! [19:53:26] very sweet though :) [19:54:06] And HI Emily! We can try to get a subsample of the coral to the bishop? [19:54:14] seems like may be enough for that. .will confirm on recovery! [19:56:01] trishalbano leaves the room [19:56:19] Emily about how much do you need for histo? [19:56:39] There are some stoloniferous corals on that rock. Peeling some off, preferably connected but not necessarily, would be great! [19:58:07] LAT : 29.671165 , LON : 179.348686 , DEPTH : 531.659 m, TEMP : 7.90486 C, SAL : 34.02777 PSU, DO : 5.31928 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:58:32] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:00:16] Brian- small branch? Whatever is able to be subsampled would be great! [20:01:10] christophermah leaves the room [20:01:10] can do steve, and in ethanol? [20:02:20] always happy to get incidental brittle stars! [20:02:29] we honestly might! [20:02:39] yes [20:02:46] Let's see. I always pore over the rocks etc. to see what we've incidentally sampled! [20:03:07] LAT : 29.671158 , LON : 179.34866 , DEPTH : 531.1553 m, TEMP : 7.89915 C, SAL : 34.03832 PSU, DO : 5.3597 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:04:16] Tim O'Hara always tells me to do more sed sampling for brittle stars.. so good to see it done. If I worked on them..I bet there's a bunch of new ones in there! [20:07:23] christophermah leaves the room [20:07:44] peterauster leaves the room [20:08:07] LAT : 29.671182 , LON : 179.34858 , DEPTH : 526.9855 m, TEMP : 7.83246 C, SAL : 34.03621 PSU, DO : 5.38595 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [20:08:26] looks like an anemone [20:08:33] emilypalmer leaves the room [20:08:55] I would not want to get into a fight with this crab! [20:09:34] fuzzy arms, something growing on them [20:09:41] Not my ballywick! Would love to see more with shells though! [20:10:47] That really does look like a shell. [20:11:20] Aneome may be sharing shell with crab? [20:11:26] kellymarkello leaves the room [20:11:27] wow! that would be cool! [20:12:10] christophermah leaves the room [20:12:16] Its Sympagurus dolflenei [20:12:21] Will do some looking into that one... agree it looks like a Polinices [20:12:34] thanks linda! [20:12:39] Also HI MEGAN HELP [20:12:51] oh nice! a pedinid I think [20:13:08] LAT : 29.671131 , LON : 179.348564 , DEPTH : 526.6454 m, TEMP : 7.90323 C, SAL : 34.02931 PSU, DO : 5.36591 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:13:18] the anemone is Stylobates aeneus [20:13:27] Hi everyone! [20:13:30] Occurs at depths around 1000 feet. Commensal with the shell-bearing anemone, Stylobates aeneus, which builds a proteinaceus gold-colored shell that grows along with the crab. This negates the need to change shells over time. Hawaii and the Marianas. [20:13:32] yes.. something like Caenopedina [20:13:54] crazy, so the anemone builds the shell - first time I've heard of that. Thank you Meagan [20:14:01] george, that is SO COOL [20:14:06] fish.. starfish.. all the same. :-) [20:14:36] orange crab? to left of red fish [20:15:07] could we look at crinoid just above fish after? [20:15:10] it has really big pectoral fins so i thinks its Setarches [20:15:30] emilypalmer leaves the room [20:16:13] lindasunderland leaves the room [20:16:35] christophermah leaves the room [20:17:30] crab is Progeryon mus [20:17:51] maybe antedonid? [20:17:55] thanks [20:18:09] LAT : 29.671122 , LON : 179.348532 , DEPTH : 525.0335 m, TEMP : 7.87528 C, SAL : 34.03609 PSU, DO : 5.35753 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:18:24] lost the audio for science and pilots [20:18:39] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:18:48] I still hear the audio [20:18:59] me too [20:19:23] (agreeing with george) [20:19:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:20:10] christophermah leaves the room [20:20:58] lindasunderland leaves the room [20:21:23] collect? [20:21:26] you mean alcyonarean [20:21:38] fish was Laemonema rhodochir [20:22:20] coral is some kind od Dendronephthya [20:22:35] I'm not sure how well it will be attached. They are either immovable object or soft pillow [20:22:50] If it isn't inconvenient to sample the aplacophoran with the coral, that would be amazing [20:23:10] LAT : 29.671104 , LON : 179.348507 , DEPTH : 523.8546 m, TEMP : 7.91334 C, SAL : 34.03911 PSU, DO : 5.40963 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:23:20] chat-admin leaves the room [20:23:58] lindasunderland leaves the room [20:24:02] I think it might be Strophomenia scandens or a new species. This strophomenia has not been sequenced [20:24:04] Emily if we can incidentally get the aplac we absolutely will try to [20:24:09] Neptheidae is a safe tenative ID [20:24:17] THANK YOU!!! [20:24:25] Okay... I hope we can do it emily wow!!!! [20:25:21] christophermah leaves the room [20:25:24] Okay emily we are going to slurp the aplac [20:25:29] steve EtOH for this one? [20:25:31] if it is not incidentally collected [20:25:38] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:26:19] yow [20:26:24] that was NOT what I expected [20:26:28] wow! its so much stronger than I thought... [20:26:35] yeah but if the histo crowd wants polyps for reproduction then a small amount in formalin [20:26:37] that was not at all what I expected oh god [20:27:58] I think I understand "true soft coral" now [20:28:10] LAT : 29.671114 , LON : 179.348531 , DEPTH : 523.8156 m, TEMP : 7.94655 C, SAL : 34.04166 PSU, DO : 5.41314 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [20:28:40] polynoid [20:29:03] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:29:08] lauraanthony leaves the room [20:30:19] christophermah leaves the room [20:31:16] samcuellar leaves the room [20:31:49] congrid eel [20:33:10] LAT : 29.671092 , LON : 179.348499 , DEPTH : 524.4335 m, TEMP : 7.88132 C, SAL : 34.03661 PSU, DO : 5.37861 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:33:34] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:36:15] Thank you so much!!! [20:37:29] Absolutely! So that was EX2503_D11_06B [20:37:47] Emily, we'll just plan to put it in EtOH. is that okay? or do you have another preferred method? [20:38:11] LAT : 29.671085 , LON : 179.34851 , DEPTH : 523.9751 m, TEMP : 7.87724 C, SAL : 34.03815 PSU, DO : 5.37339 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:39:32] christophermah leaves the room [20:40:15] brittle star high rise [20:40:23] Thouarella [20:40:45] can we zoom on disk of ophiuroid? [20:41:52] can we get another? [20:42:11] htat one is good [20:42:36] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:42:58] they match the coral so well [20:43:01] oh! very nice. Ophioplinthaca [20:43:11] LAT : 29.671044 , LON : 179.348438 , DEPTH : 520.2919 m, TEMP : 7.86108 C, SAL : 34.03534 PSU, DO : 5.3679 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [20:44:04] stoloniferous octocorals [20:44:10] different from the primnoid above [20:45:38] pancake urchins are the same as before [20:47:06] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:48:10] the fish you just saw was Pentaceros wheeleri [20:48:14] LAT : 29.670989 , LON : 179.348433 , DEPTH : 516.6868 m, TEMP : 7.84998 C, SAL : 34.03218 PSU, DO : 5.35378 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:49:15] the nudibranch is in the family Polyceridae [20:49:17] nudibranch? [20:49:53] is this a collection? [20:49:57] But wear gloves just in case [20:49:59] I would collect [20:50:14] okay will collect! and deffo cloves [20:50:20] we have seen this before in the NWHI but it was not collected [20:50:35] Good pictures on deck (profile shots) are important because the color will bleach in ethanol over time [20:51:18] copy steve, will bring camera to deck [20:51:45] I'm also seeing some tiny tiny white stubby stylasterid hydrocorals on the substrate througout the dive. If you get rocks, those might be valuable subsamples [20:52:17] they look like coral eggs ;-) [20:52:53] @Sara the lab is fine, I didn't mean the deck literally [20:53:05] hahah [20:53:13] LAT : 29.670956 , LON : 179.348415 , DEPTH : 516.4123 m, TEMP : 7.92759 C, SAL : 34.03554 PSU, DO : 5.40134 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:53:16] I mean, might as well since we have a whole video team anyway [20:53:19] relax with MgCl? [20:53:23] Im not sure about hte yellow balls, i think they are just a feature [20:53:29] @Brian not a bad idea [20:53:37] Just got on for a while. That morid fish under the ledge a few minutes ago was Laemonema rhodochir [20:54:07] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [20:55:10] christophermah leaves the room [20:55:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [20:55:47] thank you chris and meagan! [20:55:57] georgematsumoto leaves the room [20:56:30] christopherkelley leaves the room [20:57:40] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:57:46] very similar to Kalinga, which feeds on echinoderms [20:57:54] wow!!! [20:58:13] LAT : 29.671001 , LON : 179.348382 , DEPTH : 517.481 m, TEMP : 7.9893 C, SAL : 34.04364 PSU, DO : 5.42748 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:59:31] http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/kaliorna [20:59:52] Kalinga is in the family Polyceridae. I just don't think we can go further than family until someone who knows these critters gets a chance to examine the specimen Chris M [21:00:22] That was absolutely gorgeous. looked like lava. put Polyceridae as the field ID! [21:00:54] These yellow fans are probably paramuriceids [21:01:10] we collcected one just after landing [21:01:40] I would have called them acanthogorgiids years ago until the folded that family into the paramuriceidae [21:02:00] These yellow corals have been moved to the family Acanthogorgiidae [21:02:47] These fish are armorheads. Meaagan already ided the species [21:03:13] LAT : 29.67085 , LON : 179.348319 , DEPTH : 510.1358 m, TEMP : 8.4131 C, SAL : 34.06419 PSU, DO : 5.67971 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:03:20] Paracalyptrophora [21:03:33] Callogorgia I think [21:03:39] the snake stars are Ophiocreas [21:04:02] I think you are right about the Callogorgia, Chris [21:04:42] The basket stars are amazing [21:04:48] How are you doing Meagan? [21:05:24] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [21:05:52] The eel is likely Meadia abyssalis [21:06:15] The upside down fish is Stethopristis eos [21:06:21] I think there are at least 3 basket stars on that Callogorgia colony? Amazing! [21:06:32] Things are going pretty good here. It good to see you here, Chris :) [21:08:12] Dendronephthya alexanderi is the soft coral [21:08:15] LAT : 29.670951 , LON : 179.348215 , DEPTH : 505.7473 m, TEMP : 7.84117 C, SAL : 34.03117 PSU, DO : 5.38243 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:08:42] samcuellar leaves the room [21:08:42] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:09:58] Meagan, I'm struggling to remember identifications I used to know like that back of my hand but its good for the brain to struggle a bit before checking the guide [21:10:53] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:11:11] oops sorry cycloclypeus not cymbaloporetta - misspoke [21:11:41] chat-admin leaves the room [21:11:57] looks like a majoid crab to me [21:12:12] By the way, that fish that Meagan ided, Pentaceros wheeleri, is a very important fish. It was commercially fished out on Hancock seamount and is the main species in the seamount fisheries group. It's great to see some in the monument, protected now. I think the fishery still hasn't recovered on Hancock even though it was fished out decades ago. [21:12:43] oh my gosh! when we see it again we will mention that, thank you Chris! [21:13:14] LAT : 29.670877 , LON : 179.348237 , DEPTH : 503.0 m, TEMP : 7.87414 C, SAL : 34.03549 PSU, DO : 5.39466 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [21:13:47] theres a stunning basket star to the left [21:13:54] It's common name is armorhead. You can google the armorhead fishery and I think you will find out some interesting stuff to mention when you see some more. [21:14:35] thank you Chris!!! [21:15:44] This yellow fan is not an acanthogorgiid. its another type of paramuriceid. I could tell in the closeup because I saw some retracted polyps. Acanthogiids can't retract their polyps so have spines on them instead for protection against predation [21:16:29] Callogorgia gilberti. The branching is alternate [21:16:44] snake stars, Ophiocreas ..different from the basket stars [21:17:07] chris zoom in? [21:17:18] the 5 rayed ones [21:18:14] LAT : 29.670914 , LON : 179.348094 , DEPTH : 501.0999 m, TEMP : 8.57218 C, SAL : 34.06701 PSU, DO : 5.81999 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:19:06] Sara- the white gastropod is really interesting and worth collecting [21:19:41] oh, linda - which gastropod? [21:19:55] can you point it out if we see it? [21:20:05] oh wait.. not an urchin? [21:20:19] urchin? [21:20:29] echinothuroid [21:20:41] The one with the hermit crab that you just had [21:20:43] huh. same kind of urhcin but different taxon [21:20:51] those are called pedicellariae [21:20:56] or maybe not? [21:21:02] This could be Micropyga sp. Can't tell how long the tube feet are [21:21:46] Maybe its Micropyga. It was hard to tell. [21:21:53] def. an echinothuriid.. you can see the booties on the spines [21:21:56] demosponge [21:22:00] gotcha re: the gastros [21:22:05] sorry for misID... screaming kids tend to disrupt focus :S [21:23:15] LAT : 29.670788 , LON : 179.347991 , DEPTH : 494.1276 m, TEMP : 8.8939 C, SAL : 34.08344 PSU, DO : 5.98775 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:23:30] Thanks Chris. I wasn't looking at the booties, just the tube [21:23:40] Satyrichthys engyceros [21:25:12] The comb is sensory in nature [21:25:24] Chris, I was about to ask about that! [21:26:14] lindasunderland leaves the room [21:27:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:27:50] *laugh* uh.. about the crab? [21:28:04] /squat lobster? [21:28:20] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [21:28:20] briankennedy leaves the room [21:28:30] sorry.. video is freezing up [21:29:02] Pseudomunida fargilis? [21:29:34] fragilis [21:29:48] sarakahanamoku leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [21:29:56] is this gastorpod a potential sample? [21:30:10] May be Epitonium [21:30:15] hermit crab [21:30:22] That’s different thanthe other one’ [21:30:26] nvm [21:32:19] yeah looks different on zoom in linda - the other had some thicker ridge like ornamentations with some smaller ones yes? [21:32:27] Just a correction on the sea robin. It's genus name has been changed from Satyrichthys to Scalicus. Sorry, I forgot that until I looked back at the guide. [21:32:49] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:32:52] totally different family [21:32:56] can we oom on the basket in the back.. get the oral surface? [21:33:23] ah. no matter. thanks! [21:33:49] oh good. thanks Brian! [21:33:53] emilypalmer leaves the room [21:34:08] Rock pen on bottom. Callibelemnon sp I think [21:34:34] madreporites on ophs are on the oral surface.. [21:34:47] we're fine. [21:35:08] can we get a zoom on one of those Ophiocreas? [21:35:16] Callibelemnon symetricum [21:36:09] ophiocreas [21:36:47] oh wow [21:37:36] briankennedy leaves the room [21:38:18] Armorhead [21:38:48] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:40:19] christophermah leaves the room [21:40:37] this is the basketstar feeding posture [21:43:07] Acanthogorgia sp [21:43:14] christophermah leaves the room [21:43:50] okexnav leaves the room [21:45:02] Urchin is Caenopedina pulchela believe it or not [21:45:07] emilymclaughlin leaves the room [21:45:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:46:03] lindasunderland leaves the room [21:46:54] demosponge. [21:47:10] christophermah leaves the room [21:48:17] LAT : 29.670822 , LON : 179.347713 , DEPTH : 472.9229 m, TEMP : 9.41495 C, SAL : 34.11522 PSU, DO : 6.16986 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:48:29] we saw a Caenopedina earlier.. did we just see one here? [21:49:21] Gastropod von this coral [21:49:35] We saw one in passing a couple of times Chris M [21:49:57] all different sp so far [21:50:09] The squat lobster that was on the ground was Eumunida treguieri [21:50:18] Caenopedina to left [21:50:51] or Histocidaris, couln't tell. Cound we zoom urchin to upper left? [21:50:54] another epitonium [21:51:48] Yes, Caenopedina pulchella [21:52:02] or at least Caenopedina sp [21:52:07] The small white stubs on the substrate are stylasterids. Not sure if we know what they are yet [21:52:08] oh nice. yes.. that's the one we saw earllier [21:52:21] lots of Callogorgia here [21:52:34] if we see one feeding we should stop.. be interesting to see what they do [21:52:56] coronaster [21:53:00] yes, callogorgia gilberti, if I recall [21:53:05] Coronaster eclipses is my guess but I forget [21:53:06] OH! [21:53:17] CORONASTER ECLIPES [21:53:18] LAT : 29.670811 , LON : 179.347657 , DEPTH : 465.8757 m, TEMP : 9.56242 C, SAL : 34.1265 PSU, DO : 6.23256 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:53:20] nice! [21:53:39] We have seen these feed on moving prey similar to brisingids [21:54:00] in the Atlantic they can catch small fish with pedicellariae [21:54:02] I guess we call that urchin Caenopedina cf pulchella [21:54:10] Conger eel [21:54:44] the congers look cuter in my opinion ;) [21:55:00] there are so many comatulids and they all look the same oO [21:55:28] demosponge [21:55:36] sorry, I stink at demosponge ids [21:55:38] this is going to be a exciting dive to annotate [21:55:40] ha ha.. a similar star in Japan is called the Tako Hidoe.. the Octopus Star.. [21:55:48] MORE CORONASTER the better! [21:55:50] Hermit crab left? [21:56:18] hermit crab! will try to find [21:57:37] MeaganPutts leaves the room [21:57:38] Brian, the HOwland Island south ridge callogorgia community was at ~~510 and it was Callogorgia cracentis [21:57:48] emilypalmer leaves the room [21:57:55] scorpaenid [21:58:18] LAT : 29.670876 , LON : 179.347544 , DEPTH : 456.2511 m, TEMP : 9.75712 C, SAL : 34.14215 PSU, DO : 6.29492 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:58:58] HURL has oberserved this kind of Callogorgia community other seamounts in the PMNM [21:59:37] also at similar depths [21:59:45] Physiculus rhodopinnis [22:00:13] aplacophoran behind it [22:01:36] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:02:27] cuke? [22:03:07] got a brittle star rider [22:03:13] christophermah leaves the room [22:03:18] LAT : 29.670855 , LON : 179.347433 , DEPTH : 451.0369 m, TEMP : 10.18477 C, SAL : 34.16988 PSU, DO : 6.39472 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:03:21] Synallactes [22:03:31] Deimatidae would be my guess [22:03:42] interesting the spines in the sediment are from Caenopedina [22:04:19] Setarches guentheri [22:04:29] scorpionfish [22:04:32] samcuellar leaves the room [22:04:38] You can tell its Setarches by the big pectoral fins [22:04:44] fun fact, there is a tiny gastropod that lives on cuke butts [22:05:25] Chris M, was the cuc a deimatid or synallactid? [22:05:47] I was thinking deimatid because of the shallow depth [22:06:45] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:07:10] christophermah leaves the room [22:07:52] check out the tiny eel [22:08:03] Another neptheid [22:08:17] probably another genus [22:08:21] LAT : 29.670807 , LON : 179.347402 , DEPTH : 446.3368 m, TEMP : 10.20347 C, SAL : 34.17394 PSU, DO : 6.39392 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:09:07] Gotta go walk the dog. Have a good rest of your dive. [22:09:13] christopherkelley leaves the room [22:09:37] different Paramuriceid. [22:09:53] can we water sample here [22:10:14] is that a node? [22:10:21] Could be something like Muriceies [22:10:30] thats what I was thinking Meagan [22:10:42] @Chris and Megan looked more like a synallactid to me.. [22:10:53] Muriceides is purple or dark blue and white [22:11:05] but at this depth my experience with cukes is more limited. [22:13:19] LAT : 29.670823 , LON : 179.34733 , DEPTH : 440.2893 m, TEMP : 10.17599 C, SAL : 34.16502 PSU, DO : 6.39296 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:13:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:13:37] christophermah leaves the room [22:14:03] Paranepanthia! [22:14:07] this one is a collect! [22:14:21] ooo! new species? [22:14:24] An undescribed species.. not known [22:14:33] from this area. [22:14:59] does it have predation damage? [22:15:03] It might be the same one as I'm working on from New Caledonia, etc. [22:15:22] ha ha.. or else maybe a weird small Anseropoda..but I don't think so.. [22:16:31] @chrismah, HURL observed this star in American Samoa of dive P5-650 [22:17:17] thanks. I remember that! but I will need to dig it out.. I need to check it. [22:17:55] or else.. it was one of the CAPSTONE dives.. maybe not the HURL dives.. ha ha. something like that. [22:18:18] @Kelly yes.. it does have a hole so possibly. [22:18:21] LAT : 29.670839 , LON : 179.347287 , DEPTH : 439.6423 m, TEMP : 10.18571 C, SAL : 34.17298 PSU, DO : 6.41313 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:19:24] The CAPSTONE observation was at Howland and Baker [22:19:43] Pao Pao Seamount Cruise EX1703 dive 2 [22:19:48] okay. this one. https://www.soest.hawaii.edu/HURL/HURLarchive/guideimages_php/ValvatidaOther_005.php?category=Valvatida%20Other [22:20:35] and then the EX1703.. thanks! I will look again! [22:22:25] Hello all! [22:22:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:23:20] LAT : 29.670838 , LON : 179.347279 , DEPTH : 436.8859 m, TEMP : 10.22421 C, SAL : 34.17406 PSU, DO : 6.40573 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [22:23:35] hi asako [22:23:43] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [22:24:22] Hi Kelly! [22:27:44] valfinlayson leaves the room [22:28:20] LAT : 29.670839 , LON : 179.347243 , DEPTH : 436.6472 m, TEMP : 10.31467 C, SAL : 34.17994 PSU, DO : 6.4301 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:30:26] ha ha.. maybe the basket stars catch the forams? [22:31:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:32:16] oh my god what if they do? [22:32:29] Honestly. not sure if a lot is known about what preys on forams! [22:32:33] win win to collect.. [22:32:50] and there's a bunch of small basket stars here.. [22:33:21] LAT : 29.67089 , LON : 179.347182 , DEPTH : 428.4669 m, TEMP : 11.08229 C, SAL : 34.23663 PSU, DO : 6.49691 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:33:34] i know some sea biscuits eat benthic forams [22:33:58] they collect them in a depression around their mouth [22:35:55] WHAT! that is so cool! [22:36:20] Chris, would you like. a basket star? we can collect and put in the inner bio box if you don't mind contamination with the ?? mangled fish [22:36:33] Geodia [22:36:38] we are running out of space though [22:36:40] lol [22:37:13] hello, does anyone check seatube? "There was a problem getting dive id: 1905" [22:37:29] chat-admin leaves the room [22:37:35] I got a error message. [22:38:01] oh zoom on crinoid [22:38:06] this one is different [22:38:18] gastropod upper right [22:38:23] LAT : 29.670821 , LON : 179.34706 , DEPTH : 427.0956 m, TEMP : 11.0548 C, SAL : 34.23482 PSU, DO : 6.50446 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:38:28] zoom pleaese [22:38:34] I changed my mind about the purple octocoral. If you have a chance and see one can we get a collection? [22:38:36] christophermah leaves the room [22:38:44] theres a spider crab! [22:38:48] There is one at the base [22:39:16] thats the prettiest amphipod! [22:39:24] Meagan have you seen it? [22:39:26] possibly Mariametrid but very tentative [22:39:28] and roger steve can do [22:39:29] not on coral, on sand to right [22:39:34] *for the crinoid [22:40:09] upper edge of dark ring [22:40:11] thanks Kelly! [22:40:45] its not victorgorgia [22:40:49] Glass scallop bivalve too [22:41:10] Asako, we're not getting your messages well on this end 0 they're reading "object object" [22:41:13] amphipod IDs are hard without a specimen. You need to see lots of small parts... [22:41:51] purple Paramuriceid? [22:42:13] did you collect this already? [22:42:19] the crab is likely in the family Majidae [22:43:20] Steve, field ID? [22:43:24] LAT : 29.670812 , LON : 179.347097 , DEPTH : 426.3809 m, TEMP : 11.1111 C, SAL : 34.23902 PSU, DO : 6.5102 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:43:30] purple Paramuriceid? [22:43:34] *laugh* apologizing for collecting something too small after they collected a radiolarian is hilarious! [22:43:36] could you read now? [22:43:50] yes, Asako [22:44:17] thank you George [22:44:18] Yes asako good job! [22:44:24] purple Paramuriceid! [22:44:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:44:36] Also Chris M I think we got the foram! and yes that was ridiculous haha [22:45:25] but the pilots keep showing us they can do amazing things so I keep asking! [22:46:22] with this close up, I'm not sure whether this is actually Paramuriceid or not. but it doesn't look like Muriceid. (for me) [22:46:36] heh.. I remember when they collected a star the size of a silver dollar and there was a big fuss about it! :-) [22:46:41] I got a little better look at the amphipod on the purple octocoral it could be Amathillopsidae [22:46:52] Happy to push them smaller Chris! [22:47:01] Amphipod is Amathillopsidae? awesome Megan you're amazing [22:47:04] shallow Paramuriceid has sometimes color of blue / purple. [22:47:15] White gastropod is between hose and coral [22:47:54] Sara, the reason my message was "object", I copied the error message from the seatube. the link of seatube doesn't work. [22:48:03] *laugh* WHATT??? [22:48:22] LAT : 29.670835 , LON : 179.347093 , DEPTH : 427.0043 m, TEMP : 11.10245 C, SAL : 34.24041 PSU, DO : 6.50144 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:48:26] Ohhh thanks Asako! [22:48:31] is there space for crinoid? [22:48:33] And we're freaking out about this mystery nudi now [22:49:06] sorry linda looking for gastro but we have to move right now [22:49:11] there was a problem seatube of dive id 1905 [22:49:38] Sorry Kelly one sec [22:49:45] crinoid from before? [22:49:51] we're doing a rehash of sampling space [22:49:54] no worries [22:50:02] MeaganPutts leaves the room [22:50:07] what is the sample number of this? D10_?? [22:50:53] sorry yes, D11_11B [22:50:56] :-) [22:51:29] star to the right [22:52:21] Thank you Sara! it looks that it doesn't exist the seatube of today's dive. [22:52:31] shoot [22:52:48] oh nice! Paranepanthia [22:53:09] did you already have a collection for these yellow coral? [22:53:18] could be anything from the crabs to a predatory star [22:53:22] yes we collected the yellow coral [22:53:24] LAT : 29.670794 , LON : 179.347009 , DEPTH : 423.0217 m, TEMP : 11.16337 C, SAL : 34.24478 PSU, DO : 6.50587 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:53:30] Most will be bright white. Very little color at this depth. [22:53:36] nice! thank you Sara!!! [22:54:08] looks like a face with crinoid eyes [22:54:11] interesting. I think these are shallow ophs in the Ophiotrichidae [22:54:23] moving out of the domain of the ophiacanthids [22:55:43] that track corresponds to the sponge [22:55:57] megan Chris K do the fish that live in those holes in the karst build up sediment in front of the hole to protect themselves? [22:56:50] ooo! [22:57:05] just saw one of soft coral [22:57:16] possible 3rd sp. of Neptheid (purple-ish translucent) [22:57:30] oooo another benthopectinid? can we collect? [22:57:42] are we full? [22:57:50] we are not full yet [22:58:08] Iʻve never seen this species [22:58:23] LAT : 29.670759 , LON : 179.346824 , DEPTH : 417.5477 m, TEMP : 11.18025 C, SAL : 34.24363 PSU, DO : 6.50998 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [22:58:40] it can double up with the Paranpeanthia [22:58:45] they should behave [22:58:55] okay [22:59:09] we're doing it! [22:59:15] and if they eat each other..then we have more data! [22:59:50] love when we get behavioral experiments as well! [23:00:26] samcuellar leaves the room [23:00:27] Sara, I don't think that fish building up sediment behavior has ever been observed at this depth with those fish. [23:00:31] Sara, how many octocoral did you collect on this dive? ( I cannot see seatube since it doesn't exist Dive 11) [23:00:59] I don't think they will eat each other... [23:01:22] two paras one Neptheidae so far [23:01:24] ha ha .. yeah it should be fine. [23:01:26] We collected a yellow paramurceid, the purple one you just saw, and a true soft coral [23:01:28] yep [23:01:42] sorry, i have had time with audio if there was question about crinoid collection [23:01:46] what’s the whitish gray blob NW of starfish? [23:01:50] Thank you Sara! [23:02:42] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:03:10] christophermah leaves the room [23:03:24] LAT : 29.670765 , LON : 179.346837 , DEPTH : 417.5862 m, TEMP : 11.18258 C, SAL : 34.24178 PSU, DO : 6.51753 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:03:46] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:05:09] the star can go entirely in ethanol.. but if the cryovial goes to a different repository then that's fine. [23:05:11] Linda I think I see blob will zoom after this [23:06:46] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:07:02] emilypalmer leaves the room [23:07:22] Many today! [23:07:31] Many new species today@! [23:08:16] demosponge [23:08:20] Ok - thought it might be a Natica [23:08:25] LAT : 29.67075 , LON : 179.346836 , DEPTH : 416.2323 m, TEMP : 11.14571 C, SAL : 34.24156 PSU, DO : 6.4976 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:08:37] Megan thanks for the answer on the fish sediment :-) [23:08:50] at this depth these sponges are super tricky! [23:08:55] interesting, because I noticed in a few what looked like piles likely past the "angle of repose" [23:10:04] Hey all - we are currently having issues with SeaTube I am actively working to resolve. I'll update everyone as soon as it's fixed. Sorry about that! Seems like a shoreside issue currently [23:10:14] Corallimorpharian [23:10:36] No idea. Havewn't seen that before [23:10:50] I'm thinking Nidaliidae? [23:10:55] The octocorals at this site are outrageously diverse [23:11:33] seriously, what the heck! this is so beautiful! [23:11:54] Corallimorpharian [23:12:16] There are 2 more bottles right? If so, then maybe 1 at the end-of-dive and 1 in the water column (200-300 m) for our pelagic friends [23:12:30] yes, two more niskins - we had a misfire [23:12:33] Poecilastra? [23:12:39] samcuellar leaves the room [23:13:09] agree Meagan. could be Nidaliidae [23:13:25] LAT : 29.670767 , LON : 179.346707 , DEPTH : 411.8534 m, TEMP : 11.17222 C, SAL : 34.24342 PSU, DO : 6.5152 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [23:13:31] that species gets pretty massive [23:14:05] they might be eating the ophiuroids [23:14:20] Another same urchin to left upper [23:14:30] brittle stars seem to replacing crinoids [23:14:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:14:48] demosponges, right one is Poecillastra [23:14:58] brittle stars definitely becoming more common, sorry about crinoid before [23:15:08] Kelly let us know if you see one for sampling... [23:15:16] will do [23:15:24] kid-permitting [23:15:28] Caenopedina [23:15:31] squat [23:16:07] squat was Babamunida plexaura [23:16:28] not too many hiding places up here for fish or fish prey [23:16:33] there is a possblity of Bebryce or other genera on this depth [23:16:42] There's a fish in the crack [23:16:46] @Brian the zonation (patchiness) of benthic animals at this site, is worth digging into I think. [23:17:08] did we passed Callogorgia? [23:17:11] Prionocidaris ? Not sure [23:17:50] yeah it cool. You should see the CTD traces [23:17:55] hydroids on the sponge [23:17:56] That urchin was weird [23:18:03] stoloniferan overgrowth [23:18:10] christophermah leaves the room [23:18:14] and caprellid shrimp on the hydroids [23:18:26] LAT : 29.670689 , LON : 179.346574 , DEPTH : 406.6575 m, TEMP : 11.2099 C, SAL : 34.24649 PSU, DO : 6.52007 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [23:18:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:18:51] looks like a demosponge [23:18:56] There is a sponge in the hole in the bottom of the sea... [23:19:01] but a pectoral fin waving [23:19:05] science poke [23:19:56] these white soft coral would be Siphonogorgia or Nidalia [23:20:01] sponge [23:20:06] demosponge [23:20:11] SO MANY BRITTLE STARS! [23:20:34] calyptrophora [23:20:38] can we get a zoom? [23:20:49] can zoom on brittle [23:20:51] calyptrophora? [23:20:52] if you collect a coral.. can you get an oph also? [23:21:02] the polyps of primnoid corals do have scales [23:21:12] WHAT [23:21:17] I think these are ophiotrichidae rather than ophiacanthids [23:21:19] like the sclerites you mean? [23:21:20] was it downward?? looked like upward [23:21:22] wowwwww [23:21:41] it is upward. [23:21:58] Calyptrophora [23:22:15] samcuellar leaves the room [23:22:22] Yes, Calyptrophora. The basal sclerite of each polyp has long spines. Very cool in SEM [23:23:05] these remind me of the ones that captured that squid years ago. [23:23:12] i'm good. thanks! [23:23:26] LAT : 29.670638 , LON : 179.346584 , DEPTH : 406.0238 m, TEMP : 11.20794 C, SAL : 34.24587 PSU, DO : 6.5218 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:23:35] greeneye [23:23:50] parascombrops [23:24:05] I know that primnoid but haven't found it in the guide yet. I collected one of these years ago. Will keep looking [23:24:32] Parabembras [23:24:51] Siphonogorgia [23:25:00] for the soft coral [23:25:29] Zalanthias kelloggi [23:26:02] yellow one possibly Paramuriceid... [23:26:08] I had the name but didn't trust myself. It is Calyptrophora pileata. [23:26:32] christophermah leaves the room [23:26:44] something moving at the bottom of the depression to the right [23:26:56] that's what I thought too but I've never seen it so clearly, I thought it be something else. lol [23:27:01] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:27:08] Zalanthias kelloggi [23:27:34] they yellow sponge is growing over the white one [23:28:10] or did it go into the hole? [23:28:19] Meaagan, was that fish Chryonema chryseres? I was busy looking for the coral and only got a glimpse of the fish [23:28:27] LAT : 29.670658 , LON : 179.346377 , DEPTH : 401.1135 m, TEMP : 11.21978 C, SAL : 34.24834 PSU, DO : 6.52938 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:28:36] no, i think it was Parabemras [23:28:52] basket star [23:29:00] it was pink.. [23:29:05] I don't knnw of any yellow sponges here!!!!! [23:29:16] christophermah leaves the room [23:29:40] there are so many yellow encrusting demosponge species [23:29:44] bamboo [23:30:03] P.lectranthias kelloggi [23:30:28] Not like that and not at this depth and not in this region Meagan [23:30:53] Orstomisis? for the bamboo [23:30:58] lindasunderland leaves the room [23:32:04] Send down the elevator [23:32:09] sooo many Siphonogorgiid [23:32:14] Siphonogorgia [23:32:18] Ok, found a demosponge that was imaged in the Emperor's at over 1000 m. It was only identified as Poecilosclerida yellow. It looks like it [23:33:17] there is another posibillity of Chironephtya but I vote Siphonogorgia [23:33:28] LAT : 29.670554 , LON : 179.346327 , DEPTH : 395.7496 m, TEMP : 11.25516 C, SAL : 34.25222 PSU, DO : 6.51916 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:33:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:33:36] ha ha. is it wrong that I want to see a small fish or squid get too close to some hungry brittle star? :-) [23:33:51] Chris, life is all a big give and take [23:33:55] the one you collected "true soft coral" was this? [23:33:56] so no :-) [23:34:28] get the soft coral if you haven't yet. It is really abundant and a dominant species here [23:34:35] ha ha.. would it be wrong that I want to see a fish come and nibble some arms off of brittle stars ;-) [23:34:38] No, asako, it was a different kind of soft coral. - should we collect? [23:34:42] it is in a bio box [23:34:59] Ah, ok, I guess I missed that collection [23:35:27] Cheiraster I think [23:35:42] Asako, do you think these soft corals coulde be gersemia species? Gersemia was quite abundant in the emperor seamounts and alaska dives [23:35:55] these feed on brittle stars so.. this is consistent [23:36:56] from what I've seen .. never watched them. but gut contetns are filled with ossicles [23:37:25] @Meagan no. I think these soft corals could be the family Siphonogorgiidae. genus Siphonogorgia or genus Chironephtya [23:37:46] Pteroctopus hoylei [23:38:01] 'Tear octopus' [23:38:08] Happy octopus Friday! [23:38:26] At least some of these round white demosponges could be Geodia sp [23:38:28] sorry, I was trying to write it phonectically [23:38:30] LAT : 29.670511 , LON : 179.346249 , DEPTH : 394.3926 m, TEMP : 11.24498 C, SAL : 34.25043 PSU, DO : 6.52968 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [23:38:43] yay! octopus Friday! [23:38:47] hahaha thank you george I am not quick on my feet and have no filter [23:38:49] hahaha [23:39:12] Physiculus rhodopinnis was red fish on left [23:40:05] Meagan ided this octopus already [23:40:52] Octopus doesn't like the brittle stars [23:40:56] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:41:05] Those spines can't feel good [23:41:30] Worst hug ever... [23:41:45] they are shy, they curl up when the ROV comes by [23:42:44] Hermi crab ob=n other side of coral to left with shell [23:43:28] LAT : 29.670519 , LON : 179.346265 , DEPTH : 393.7746 m, TEMP : 11.21544 C, SAL : 34.24855 PSU, DO : 6.5293 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0855 FTU [23:44:33] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:45:41] Brittle stars are the undersea version of legos on the floor of a dark room at night [23:45:50] trying to blow us away ;-) [23:47:36] Agree with the jar 5 plan [23:47:58] Was trying to mention that they look like the predatory ones we saw years ago [23:48:29] LAT : 29.67053 , LON : 179.346126 , DEPTH : 390.0836 m, TEMP : 11.22677 C, SAL : 34.24759 PSU, DO : 6.52708 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [23:48:47] I think that was 1705 [23:49:02] Asako, Steve - soft coral collect? we could also double up, maybe in SI? it has the purple paramurceid and the nudibranch accident [23:49:19] sure. I think there is value in that [23:49:40] I'm fine with doubling up but I don't want to make more work for you all [23:49:47] I would agree with a collection too, its so abundant! [23:50:10] here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHN4sWAuBVc [23:50:44] can we grab an oph along with it? [23:51:07] If the purple paramurceid could be subsampled for histology, that would be great! [23:51:26] thanks! [23:51:33] can do emily! [23:51:36] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:52:15] I won't complain-..but the ophs def have priority. the urchin is at least somewhat recognizable [23:52:41] it is Caenopedina. probably the one we have been seeing. [23:53:29] LAT : 29.670444 , LON : 179.346107 , DEPTH : 389.5888 m, TEMP : 11.2443 C, SAL : 34.24907 PSU, DO : 6.52744 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:54:16] That urchin is Caenopedina pulchella so definitely no need to collect [23:54:46] MeaganPutts leaves the room [23:55:25] sadly no crinoids in sight [23:55:32] sorry kelly :( [23:56:10] if you see one we can double with aplac? [23:56:14] Asako, that tall coral looks like another Calyptrophora pileata. [23:56:26] my own bad... i assumed they would last ... definitely fine with doubling [23:58:10] That is a relatively shallow lyrate species looking somewhat similar to C. angularis. It also has a reddish color to the tissue unlike angularis. I collected one years ago off Niihau and they are pretty distinctive. [23:58:14] Chris, Thanks. [23:58:29] LAT : 29.670409 , LON : 179.346087 , DEPTH : 389.7835 m, TEMP : 11.24798 C, SAL : 34.24963 PSU, DO : 6.52847 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [23:58:57] soft coral, Faimily Siphonogorgiidae. possibly genus Siphonogorgia is my guess. [23:59:13] thank you asako, updated field ID [23:59:35] THANK YOU PILOTS!