[00:00:11] chaet [00:00:16] chaet [00:00:46] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [00:00:49] for? [00:00:55] doliolid nurse [00:00:58] doliolid [00:01:10] urochordate [00:01:40] closer to fish than to jellyfish [00:01:57] solitary salp [00:02:28] let's talk about squid to get some jellies ;-) [00:02:46] samcuellar leaves the room [00:02:51] lindasunderland leaves the room [00:03:02] Vog [00:03:06] Vogtia serrata [00:03:08] LAT : 29.391853 , LON : -177.425024 , DEPTH : 502.7376 m, TEMP : 8.95344 C, SAL : 34.09096 PSU, DO : 5.71651 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:03:10] Vogtia? [00:03:11] still young [00:03:38] only a few nectophores still [00:03:46] they increase in number as they grow [00:03:57] You can sometimes find these nectophores on the beach [00:03:59] and still first set o teeth [00:04:04] hahah arussell [00:04:09] you can find the nectophores on the beach??? [00:04:15] lrft [00:04:20] The larval nectophore that is embedded in the centre looks like a Prayid larval nectophore [00:04:25] foram [00:04:44] is centre brown? [00:05:06] You should sample one maybe? [00:05:28] get a proper ID? [00:05:30] Did you want to collect one of these and put into the collections? [00:05:35] jomg wait [00:05:39] i would love to collect a foram [00:05:40] krill [00:05:42] can we?? [00:05:54] You are the boss [00:06:11] Desmophyes haematogaster [00:06:15] would we want to burn a canister? [00:06:29] I am not a geneticist so want to prioritize that [00:06:35] we are talking here shipside [00:06:38] There are enough to get a vertical distribution on them and if you get an ID you could write a short note [00:06:45] that would be lovely wow [00:06:58] Seems like a fine idea Sara! [00:07:00] what is that?? [00:07:01] okay we might give it a shot... [00:07:18] wow!!! [00:07:27] Intacta relative? [00:07:28] yes ctens [00:07:32] Whereis George? [00:07:47] ocry [00:07:51] ? [00:07:53] I'm here ;-) [00:07:54] orange tentacle bulbs?! [00:07:56] Hmmm. [00:08:07] LAT : 29.391944 , LON : -177.425136 , DEPTH : 500.8388 m, TEMP : 8.97666 C, SAL : 34.09171 PSU, DO : 5.73172 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:08:14] Sort of Batho like, but . . . [00:08:22] Missing link Thalassocalce and Llyria? [00:08:29] so weird... [00:08:46] lobes but no auricles [00:08:49] Undescribed ctenophore - we've seen this several times in Monterey but haven't been able to sequence it yet. [00:09:01] havent see the orange tentacle bulbs before though [00:09:04] Looks like this: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/03/create-a-better-brain-through-neuroplasticity-use-it-or-lose-it/ [00:09:05] the rows are really blue [00:09:12] close up of internal canals around gut please [00:09:25] Should name it after Star Trek's Talosians [00:09:27] Not suggesting it, but you could slurp it for sure. It will disappear I think [00:09:38] really soft [00:09:44] I think it will shred [00:09:46] drive it into the sampler [00:09:48] YES katy love the talosian callout [00:09:50] It is very flexible, but will likely run out of the biobox I think. [00:09:57] slurp will get you some pieces hopefully [00:10:00] very low pressure [00:10:04] Flashing are the ctene rows [00:10:07] it's cilia [00:10:12] red lasers on cilia [00:10:16] tentacles [00:10:17] ? [00:10:28] Tentacles have tentilla on them. very nice. [00:10:52] tentacle bulbs on body surface [00:11:10] yes can try [00:11:14] slurp and try and recover a piece [00:11:42] once it goes in cut ressure and drive forward [00:11:46] go slow and it will stretch... and hopefully follow in [00:12:30] tentacle bulb position really distinctive [00:12:43] If nothing visible when you bring it up, which I predict, if you could put some of the water in 95% ethanol, one part to 10, we might get some DNA out of it. [00:12:46] great! [00:13:06] well done!! [00:13:09] LAT : 29.391976 , LON : -177.425179 , DEPTH : 492.1637 m, TEMP : 9.06962 C, SAL : 34.09743 PSU, DO : 5.80737 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:13:13] might still be a tentacle bulb in there [00:13:42] Awesome. Cannot wait to sequence and share that data with y'all. [00:13:45] genome skim? [00:13:59] dolio? [00:14:02] We give it a shot. [00:14:10] colobonema [00:14:14] great. fingers crossed! [00:15:09] trachy couldn't tell if Haliscera or rhopalo.. [00:15:11] colo [00:15:13] Colobonema [00:15:44] foram [00:15:54] radio [00:16:07] Coelodendrid [00:17:07] cyclothone [00:17:37] larv [00:17:44] foram [00:18:06] was very close within light shadow [00:18:10] LAT : 29.392273 , LON : -177.425236 , DEPTH : 500.8375 m, TEMP : 8.96382 C, SAL : 34.09202 PSU, DO : 5.7403 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:18:12] I saw tsil moving [00:18:31] in cl;ode [00:18:36] close [00:19:02] two of em [00:19:10] upper left also [00:19:23] missed [00:19:31] too close [00:19:43] they are only a few mm in core [00:20:12] EX2503_DIVE08 Mid-water Transect End [00:20:18] salps [00:20:28] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [00:20:45] left [00:20:49] centere [00:20:55] sioph? [00:21:20] apo? [00:21:38] swing left [00:21:42] siph. Apolemia or Cordagalma? [00:21:52] prayinae [00:22:04] zoom on bells plz [00:22:10] prya? [00:22:31] Prayinae but no closeup sp don't know genus [00:22:53] Rosacea maybe? actually can't tell [00:22:57] ya, saw what looked like 2 necto [00:23:09] LAT : 29.392312 , LON : -177.425389 , DEPTH : 501.3054 m, TEMP : 8.9612 C, SAL : 34.08925 PSU, DO : 5.73869 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:23:22] don't know if you can do anything but camera 3 is showing a computer screen ;-) [00:23:23] foram [00:23:49] allencollins leaves the room [00:23:59] krill [00:24:07] thanks george wll let video know [00:24:20] foram [00:24:35] so many forams!!! [00:24:39] george fixing that [00:25:01] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV Ascending [00:26:17] siph [00:27:13] gotta go walk the dog and make dinner. Thanks for a great day today!!! [00:27:26] Thank you geore! [00:27:30] george! [00:27:36] c u later dude [00:27:40] lighting needs to be more outboard and crossover to create a darker background with less washout [00:27:56] georgematsumoto leaves the room [00:28:09] LAT : 29.392215 , LON : -177.425094 , DEPTH : 403.5475 m, TEMP : 11.27388 C, SAL : 34.24183 PSU, DO : 6.46822 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:31:08] shoreside we are doing a pilot shift change [00:31:11] as setting up [00:32:34] copepods!!! [00:32:55] lots of copepods [00:33:08] cestid [00:33:09] Cestum veneris [00:33:11] LAT : 29.392874 , LON : -177.425722 , DEPTH : 401.2817 m, TEMP : 11.41945 C, SAL : 34.2534 PSU, DO : 6.48113 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:33:19] zoom [00:33:42] canals on either side of gut are important [00:33:57] hopefully that was enough [00:34:13] bonus ctenophore [00:34:17] pretty sure Cestum and not Velamen [00:34:22] EX2503_DIVE08 Mid-water Transect Start [00:34:28] chat-admin leaves the room [00:34:38] 400m transect [00:34:57] center top [00:35:09] lobate [00:35:12] Another one of those lobates [00:35:26] bathy? [00:35:36] baby trachymedusa stuck on lobe [00:35:50] a bay killer? [00:36:21] intacta-like [00:36:34] Physaora gilmeri [00:36:41] only second one I have ever seen [00:36:48] great shot [00:36:52] woah! [00:36:54] needs to go in ID guide [00:36:59] and a larv behind it too [00:37:31] salp [00:37:45] ooooh [00:37:50] Tomopteris and Bargmannia [00:38:04] no Bargmannia [00:38:10] LAT : 29.392938 , LON : -177.425788 , DEPTH : 400.4726 m, TEMP : 11.44178 C, SAL : 34.25561 PSU, DO : 6.4662 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:38:56] foram [00:39:04] Swima [00:39:08] is the bomber [00:39:12] shoot dhugal I keep missing them [00:39:14] sinker [00:39:27] down below 3000m [00:39:47] MORE FORAMS [00:39:51] okay i saw that one [00:40:13] salp [00:40:16] Salpa [00:40:39] the way they are joined to each other tells you the genus [00:40:51] I’m with you Sara! Never thought I would see live forams or pteropods.! Got plenty of tests and shells from dredgings. [00:41:36] lindasunderland leaves the room [00:41:39] SO STOKED!! wow I love seeing the live ones linda! We saw a pteropod earlier and I was so excited! so different to see them "in the flesh" [00:41:57] haven't seen a tuscarorid all dive [00:42:40] Deiopea [00:43:11] LAT : 29.393154 , LON : -177.425892 , DEPTH : 400.1021 m, TEMP : 11.42059 C, SAL : 34.25186 PSU, DO : 6.47537 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:43:50] lots of clear, small trachys around [00:44:04] like that one [00:44:21] another Deiopea [00:44:30] cteno at bottom [00:46:15] asakomatsumoto leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:46:34] kellymarkello leaves the room [00:46:47] foram [00:47:00] dhugal, so many forams here... [00:47:08] sinker [00:47:32] bet you want to take a core on the bottom below us [00:47:40] chaete [00:48:00] I wish we could dhugal, but also the depth here probably means we'd not get anything but siliceous oooooze... [00:48:11] LAT : 29.393196 , LON : -177.425905 , DEPTH : 403.5156 m, TEMP : 11.30603 C, SAL : 34.24397 PSU, DO : 6.46441 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [00:48:18] also fun, but less exciting for the fizz-loving folks like me [00:48:39] wonder how long they would take to dissolve... might be a few fresh ones still there, especially if there was organic matter fallout at the same time in a pulse? [00:48:52] Rich says that looked a bit like a leptocephalus larva (eel) [00:48:56] oik [00:49:01] larv [00:49:25] I did find a few fresh looking planktics in the abyssal seds from dive 02... was wondering if they'd just settled...! [00:49:37] pyro [00:49:41] wish we had easy & cheap "micro" 14C [00:49:51] or colonial rad? [00:50:06] annalienesch leaves the room [00:50:23] Collodaria? [00:50:26] No stinging [00:50:42] maybe not pyrosome [00:50:47] the bend suggest colonial radis (collodarian) [00:50:52] too transparent? [00:51:01] yes, to claer [00:51:07] too clear [00:51:09] Rad! [00:51:18] Thalassocalyce [00:52:20] If there are collodarians way down here then there must be heaps in the surface layer [00:52:38] barg? [00:52:42] Thalassocalyce [00:53:11] LAT : 29.393337 , LON : -177.425828 , DEPTH : 400.095 m, TEMP : 11.43946 C, SAL : 34.25454 PSU, DO : 6.4698 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [00:53:28] Rudjakovia? [00:53:44] oik [00:54:00] How many carrots do you guys eat each day? [00:54:12] Thal? [00:54:17] Thalasso [00:54:20] Fathomverse [00:54:27] blueberries mate [00:54:41] Thalassocalyce [00:55:13] Praya? [00:55:15] only about 2cm diameter [00:55:21] philhartmeyer leaves the room [00:55:39] Lilyopsis fluoracantha [00:55:43] noce! [00:56:14] a calycophoran prayine siphonophore [00:56:19] Isn't this a game too? [00:56:28] this IS a game [00:56:35] foram! [00:56:37] right [00:56:41] foram [00:56:45] larv [00:56:56] you shoot the plankton with the lasers right? [00:57:08] FORAM!!! [00:57:14] haha dhugal [00:57:33] The kraken is just around the corner Roland [00:57:43] did you see how it was just a dot when it went out of frame? that means some of these other dots that aren't at the right angle of the light could also be forams [00:58:01] Cestum [00:58:09] many Thalasso around [00:58:13] LAT : 29.393353 , LON : -177.425761 , DEPTH : 404.5324 m, TEMP : 11.29579 C, SAL : 34.24326 PSU, DO : 6.46914 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [00:58:25] salps [00:58:41] my partner just downloaded the fathomverse game, thank you !! [00:59:07] wormy [00:59:11] center [00:59:13] tomoperus [00:59:18] Tomopteris [00:59:31] cestis [00:59:53] Cestum [00:59:57] spider? [01:00:09] oik [01:00:14] radio [01:00:24] Coelodendrid [01:00:34] Prayinae [01:01:04] if you poke a Cestum they roll themselves up so they are easier to pop into a jar [01:01:28] otherwise swim like a snake or a glider wing [01:02:04] mouth forward predator glider or escaping snake/worm [01:02:10] wow dhugal I could listen to the facts you have about these critters all day [01:02:15] Holy moly [01:02:40] kellymarkello leaves the room [01:03:13] LAT : 29.393392 , LON : -177.425801 , DEPTH : 403.0148 m, TEMP : 11.33764 C, SAL : 34.24474 PSU, DO : 6.47512 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:04:05] nice [01:04:19] Physaora gilmeri again! [01:04:37] look how huge the float is! [01:04:56] Never seen this guy before. [01:05:00] Palpons have orange tips [01:05:07] are all the long strands part of it? Or is that something else [01:05:07] philhartmeyer leaves the room [01:05:17] This species has no bracts while the second species in the genus does have them [01:05:35] This guy is not in GenBank at all [01:05:42] back in 2002 [01:06:12] I got 18S from that 2002 specimen. Is in our poster for next week EGU;-) [01:06:16] The life list is called World Register of Marine Species, but . . . . you know that only 1 in any 5 species has a name yet [01:06:21] No COI or 16S yet.. [01:06:23] HAHA [01:07:00] If you get it, we will sequence all the common markers. But no space! [01:07:02] Thoese tentacles are REALLY extensible [01:07:18] This animal is so coool [01:07:26] will attempt [01:07:29] one stomach with food [01:07:33] WOOHOO [01:07:33] chat-admin leaves the room [01:07:41] woohoo! That would be amazing. There will be bits. [01:08:14] LAT : 29.393348 , LON : -177.425792 , DEPTH : 401.8366 m, TEMP : 11.45627 C, SAL : 34.25302 PSU, DO : 6.48438 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:08:19] even one piece would be great [01:08:36] 10cm? [01:08:47] got him [01:08:51] OK, amazing. But. . . thanks for trying! [01:09:07] Check for bits if you have a chance. [01:09:13] will check for bits! [01:09:18] That was very cool to tery [01:09:22] try [01:09:27] foram [01:09:48] foram!! [01:10:24] centre [01:10:49] Prayinae siphosome [01:10:55] nectophores are down right [01:11:01] closer to rov [01:11:19] has ahas necto [01:11:33] Pulling in the net [01:11:37] pysonect [01:11:42] zoom top left [01:11:54] sorry dhugal we moved on [01:12:05] a Nanomia species maybe? [01:12:12] katybell leaves the room [01:12:43] caly [01:12:48] All deployed [01:12:51] Lensia [01:12:54] So nice [01:13:05] rare to see so still [01:13:08] Lensia [01:13:14] That is really cool [01:13:16] LAT : 29.393394 , LON : -177.42577 , DEPTH : 400.8099 m, TEMP : 11.46179 C, SAL : 34.2571 PSU, DO : 6.47142 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:13:26] holy mackerel [01:13:32] Those tentillae are amazing [01:13:36] They run fast. [01:13:41] Lensia conoidea I think [01:13:43] usually [01:13:56] That's what usually happens right away [01:14:02] wow, great video! [01:14:17] voracious eater of copepods [01:14:35] siph [01:14:40] don't we all aspire to be voracious eaters of copepods [01:14:46] Cool. a Prayine tail with "special nectophores" actively swimming [01:14:51] another first for me [01:14:58] copepods are tasty. .. . . in the right sauce [01:15:03] lindasunderland leaves the room [01:15:28] a subset of Prayines have "special nectophores" instead of gonophores containg gonads. I think that was one of them [01:15:49] WHAT that is so cool!!! [01:15:54] Nice! Lobate indeed [01:16:03] Deipea [01:16:05] Deiopea [01:16:08] Deiopea [01:16:46] 5th I think [01:16:58] So many ctenophores are named after nymphs [01:17:05] Beroe for instance [01:17:32] oh that's amazg thank you allen! [01:17:45] Dopey ctenophore ;-) [01:17:57] what! dopey! never [01:18:10] lol. I think I am getting dopey. Up since 5 and it is after 9. :) [01:18:15] LAT : 29.39337 , LON : -177.425838 , DEPTH : 401.8506 m, TEMP : 11.3224 C, SAL : 34.25099 PSU, DO : 6.48039 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:19:02] Just like being on a cruise right Allen? [01:19:15] salp? [01:19:18] Cydippe is another ctenophore/nymph name [01:19:19] EX2503_DIVE08 Mid-water Transect End [01:19:23] Just like being at sea. [01:19:37] except if it was one of Russ's cruises you wouldn't have slept at all ;-) [01:19:47] foram [01:20:09] No train ride to get to bed either. [01:20:28] take the salp train [01:21:11] Excellent. I would assume the foram will be in the eDNA sample. If only the primers would amplify them!!! [01:21:14] Sara - if you want to rewatch, I've annotated those as "Foraminifera" and then left a comment of "good zoom" for the ones we have nice video of [01:21:18] sarakahanamoku leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [01:21:19] I have only seen a single form morphotype [01:21:37] yes all seem to be the same [01:21:44] The Coelodendrid as well [01:22:08] we are riding the salp train to the surface! [01:22:28] and thank you ashley, appreciate the annotation! will do :-) [01:22:36] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV Ascending [01:22:38] It looks to me too like they're all the same morphotype - agree russel and dhugal. fascinating! [01:22:54] gotta hand around in the surface layer and see what comes up at night to say hi [01:23:16] LAT : 29.392852 , LON : -177.425905 , DEPTH : 379.4979 m, TEMP : 12.00584 C, SAL : 34.29375 PSU, DO : 6.54652 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:23:24] thanks for talking forams with me gang, sorry to be a one-track mind here [01:23:28] :-) [01:23:40] true to foram [01:23:46] badum-tssssss [01:24:18] caly [01:27:32] I think there was a different collidarian early in the dive [01:28:16] LAT : 29.393355 , LON : -177.425867 , DEPTH : 300.2674 m, TEMP : 14.031 C, SAL : 34.44631 PSU, DO : 6.7219 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:30:00] EX2503_DIVE08 Mid-water Transect Start [01:30:09] siph [01:30:57] copepods [01:31:33] Thalassocalyce? [01:31:35] thallaso [01:31:38] yes [01:31:40] thal [01:32:15] old stem of siph [01:32:16] peterauster leaves the room [01:32:28] Apolemia? [01:33:16] LAT : 29.393308 , LON : -177.425832 , DEPTH : 299.5859 m, TEMP : 14.01789 C, SAL : 34.44503 PSU, DO : 6.72461 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:33:20] what was thet fast one - Barg? [01:33:38] my video was choppy. Maybe Cordagalama? [01:33:52] haven't seen a Ctenoceros either [01:34:24] so niskin 5 misfired [01:34:33] we will treat it as another sample, will let you know time and depth stamp [01:34:47] krill [01:34:50] sounds good. Thanks for catching, Art [01:34:57] well that's perfect [01:35:13] Excellent water sampling [01:35:29] phew [01:35:34] D2 just knew what we wanted [01:35:48] D2 said "gotchu fam" [01:36:42] dead foram [01:36:44] messed up foram [01:36:54] or a haorbal [01:37:05] hairball [01:37:33] you can see the chambers [01:38:07] Bathocyroe? Ocyropsis? [01:38:17] LAT : 29.393337 , LON : -177.425904 , DEPTH : 299.6421 m, TEMP : 14.02261 C, SAL : 34.4449 PSU, DO : 6.71862 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:39:29] bath-oh-sigh-roe-ee [01:40:05] oh gosh tHANK YOU [01:40:45] how about we call that cteno Bruce or Shelia [01:40:50] diatom chain? too big? [01:40:58] ooo that feels large?? [01:41:19] snot castle? [01:41:23] had a repeating rectangular structure [01:41:51] Sphaeronectes [01:41:54] little caly? [01:42:23] or were there two bells? [01:42:48] Somebodies tupee [01:42:55] eggs? [01:43:02] colnial rad [01:43:10] collodaria? [01:43:13] or egg mass [01:43:18] LAT : 29.393196 , LON : -177.425821 , DEPTH : 298.3192 m, TEMP : 13.99057 C, SAL : 34.44335 PSU, DO : 6.71938 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [01:43:20] i reckon egg mass [01:43:29] Wow [01:43:31] LOOOVE egg mass! [01:43:36] zoom right in and look for baby squid [01:44:26] Ashley you're amazing [01:44:31] lensia [01:44:35] collodarian donut [01:44:51] pteropod with egg string [01:44:54] cool! [01:44:56] fish? [01:45:00] is that a little fish? [01:45:34] pelagic rattail? [01:45:41] cool. nice pecs [01:45:54] carangid? [01:46:35] pecs are huge. must be larval [01:47:25] Fantastic video [01:47:40] Any room in that cannister? [01:47:51] incredible video [01:48:02] yeah suck into last cannister [01:48:18] LAT : 29.393217 , LON : -177.425745 , DEPTH : 297.5002 m, TEMP : 13.91064 C, SAL : 34.43672 PSU, DO : 6.7262 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:48:28] I am afreid wwe will damage the existing samples if we doupble up and it will just swim out of jar 6 [01:48:37] Is it catchable? Very cool. [01:49:37] that was amazing [01:50:58] salp [01:51:02] bath-oh-sigh-roe-ee ? [01:51:05] ope no [01:51:07] salp lol [01:51:09] cyclosalpa? [01:51:27] not sure - solitarty phase [01:53:07] coelodendrids [01:53:13] colonial radio [01:53:16] wow a whole colony [01:53:20] LAT : 29.393328 , LON : -177.425752 , DEPTH : 304.4166 m, TEMP : 13.81059 C, SAL : 34.43206 PSU, DO : 6.7005 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [01:54:41] its really cool!!!! [01:55:17] 2 larvs [01:56:05] lots of copepods around [01:56:13] and oiks [01:56:22] always [01:58:00] bigger migration than gnu on the savannah! [01:58:20] LAT : 29.393242 , LON : -177.425927 , DEPTH : 303.3006 m, TEMP : 13.85685 C, SAL : 34.43257 PSU, DO : 6.71052 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [01:58:44] almost no info on what fragile jellies are near the surface at night [01:59:11] ohhhhh!!!!! [01:59:39] dhugal sounds like you have to write a grant for a nighttime jelly search [01:59:42] allencollins leaves the room [02:00:10] euph [02:00:34] i think the "messed up" foram had those tentacle or diatom?? things stuck to it [02:00:37] too right! [02:00:52] snot [02:01:40] caly [02:03:20] LAT : 29.393127 , LON : -177.425917 , DEPTH : 302.774 m, TEMP : 14.0391 C, SAL : 34.4466 PSU, DO : 6.72255 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:04:02] fritilarid? [02:04:10] yes, finally [02:04:44] was that the ID for the larvacean? [02:05:00] yes Frittilaria [02:05:10] Fritillaria [02:05:33] ctene? [02:06:26] Eudoxids from a siphonophore? [02:06:44] siph tail [02:06:50] no idea- almost loked like a swarm of copepods [02:07:30] katybell leaves the room [02:07:32] I think it was the eudooxid sexual stage but still attached together on the siphosome of the polygastric stage colony [02:07:44] radio [02:07:59] forams few and far between, seems like? [02:08:03] iiiiiinteresting [02:08:06] maybe truncat [02:08:11] (for the foram ID) [02:08:21] LAT : 29.393027 , LON : -177.425906 , DEPTH : 303.8554 m, TEMP : 14.05831 C, SAL : 34.44605 PSU, DO : 6.7261 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [02:08:57] Funchalia shrimp resting on a baby pyrosome [02:09:06] shrimp on a physonect? [02:09:22] yes... pyrosome [02:10:07] its a pyrosome... the colony will get bigger [02:10:08] Amazing [02:10:14] flying shromp! [02:10:18] see Lindsay et al 2001 for shrimps riding pyrosomes :-) [02:10:32] adding to my nightly reading thank you! [02:10:54] substrate in the midwater [02:11:13] oik [02:11:16] larv [02:11:44] crasy copepdo [02:12:22] krill [02:13:05] Lensia maybe? [02:13:21] LAT : 29.392788 , LON : -177.425978 , DEPTH : 300.0536 m, TEMP : 14.05563 C, SAL : 34.44766 PSU, DO : 6.72748 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [02:13:59] Its your white whale. Exactly [02:14:41] Dhugal, I finally got around to answering that direct query. Hard to notice a note on that. [02:15:23] Rads nest [02:15:45] chat-admin leaves the room [02:16:00] Bad pun too [02:16:23] omg great pun [02:16:37] EX2503_DIVE08 Mid-water Transect End [02:17:02] OK. Awesome! Thanks much! Good night!! [02:17:08] You guys were great. [02:17:15] thank you all!!! so much!!!! [02:17:22] Thanks muchly! [02:17:43] Thank you guys!! [02:18:04] Please keep recording to the surface. i will analyze the ProRes video later. Need to get to work now. [02:18:16] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV Ascending [02:18:21] sounds good, and you bet we will dhugal [02:18:24] LAT : 29.392441 , LON : -177.426003 , DEPTH : 299.7758 m, TEMP : 14.0384 C, SAL : 34.44625 PSU, DO : 6.72062 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [02:18:28] Thank you all for the fun commentary, great piloting, etc etc. [02:18:54] allencollins leaves the room [02:18:57] tata [02:19:06] briankennedy leaves the room [02:19:11] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [02:19:13] dhugallindsay leaves the room [02:19:33] RussellHopcroft leaves the room [02:19:33] Thank you for the dive today! it was impressive!! [02:19:38] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [02:19:42] ashleymarranzino leaves the room [02:23:22] LAT : 29.392357 , LON : -177.425656 , DEPTH : 161.5561 m, TEMP : 16.76903 C, SAL : 34.61319 PSU, DO : 7.27247 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [02:28:23] LAT : 29.392808 , LON : -177.425161 , DEPTH : 55.9916 m, TEMP : 18.74373 C, SAL : 34.82463 PSU, DO : 7.62875 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1465 FTU [02:33:23] LAT : 29.393136 , LON : -177.424607 , DEPTH : 60.4846 m, TEMP : 18.75385 C, SAL : 34.826 PSU, DO : 7.63423 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1404 FTU [02:38:24] LAT : 29.393773 , LON : -177.423403 , DEPTH : 12.6437 m, TEMP : 20.39867 C, SAL : 35.10444 PSU, DO : 7.39654 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0977 FTU [02:39:01] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV on Surface [02:56:18] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV Recovery Complete [03:10:09] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [04:30:18] EX2503_DIVE08 ROV powered off [05:45:30] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [06:30:30] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [15:06:48] georgematsumoto leaves the room [17:08:09] astridleitner leaves the room [17:17:07] Test message DIVE09 [18:19:13] EX2503_DIVE09 ROV Launch [18:25:31] EX2503_DIVE09 ROV on Surface [18:26:23] EX2503_DIVE09 ROV Descending [18:27:33] LAT : 28.873517 , LON : -177.873461 , DEPTH : 23.3327 m, TEMP : 20.23332 C, SAL : 35.10264 PSU, DO : 7.37295 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0916 FTU [18:32:33] LAT : 28.873591 , LON : -177.873373 , DEPTH : 56.4013 m, TEMP : 19.98905 C, SAL : 35.08115 PSU, DO : 7.36285 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0916 FTU [18:37:33] LAT : 28.874045 , LON : -177.872535 , DEPTH : 179.3019 m, TEMP : 17.00507 C, SAL : 34.67629 PSU, DO : 6.87716 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:42:34] LAT : 28.874458 , LON : -177.87245 , DEPTH : 323.0153 m, TEMP : 13.9451 C, SAL : 34.442 PSU, DO : 6.74811 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [18:47:34] LAT : 28.874596 , LON : -177.872184 , DEPTH : 465.9157 m, TEMP : 10.45181 C, SAL : 34.19032 PSU, DO : 6.35671 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:52:35] LAT : 28.874859 , LON : -177.871744 , DEPTH : 622.1332 m, TEMP : 6.84161 C, SAL : 34.01758 PSU, DO : 4.41833 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:57:36] LAT : 28.875164 , LON : -177.871381 , DEPTH : 779.3386 m, TEMP : 4.90157 C, SAL : 34.11108 PSU, DO : 2.2801 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [18:57:50] in the water [18:58:32] Aloha all, getting ready for our dive planning call for Dive 10 in a few minutes [18:58:55] @sara - from discord yesterday regarding your comment - please relay to her that many viewers approve of the salp train 🤣 [18:59:07] Still at 25 minutes past the hour? [18:59:12] YES!!! Salp train!!! [18:59:27] nevermind, that's the pre-dive [19:00:03] ohhh, that was Deepstaria! [19:00:48] Thanks george, I did not know about the discord [19:00:52] Brian has updated me and wow haha [19:01:23] calling into the pre dive now. Be there is a second the RTS is grumpy this morning [19:02:09] we're doing a bit of a reboot on the party line, will let you know when that's done [19:02:36] LAT : 28.875501 , LON : -177.870917 , DEPTH : 932.0728 m, TEMP : 4.03399 C, SAL : 34.24105 PSU, DO : 1.08715 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:03:10] ok [19:03:56] chat-admin leaves the room [19:05:51] is anyone on the conference calll line [19:06:33] chris k and i [19:07:03] Sorry, troubleshooting with the tech onboard... [19:07:36] LAT : 28.875638 , LON : -177.870995 , DEPTH : 1086.7672 m, TEMP : 3.52639 C, SAL : 34.36766 PSU, DO : 0.94516 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:12:37] LAT : 28.875852 , LON : -177.871182 , DEPTH : 1242.5088 m, TEMP : 3.09805 C, SAL : 34.44904 PSU, DO : 1.08209 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [19:17:37] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [19:17:37] LAT : 28.875975 , LON : -177.871325 , DEPTH : 1395.2072 m, TEMP : 2.74358 C, SAL : 34.50179 PSU, DO : 1.35595 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:22:07] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [19:22:38] LAT : 28.875901 , LON : -177.87125 , DEPTH : 1518.8835 m, TEMP : 2.5581 C, SAL : 34.53017 PSU, DO : 1.61279 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:23:47] Just an FYI for tomorrow's dive, Allen Collins and I will be live streaming the dive from the National Museum of Natural History "Science Snacks" event. Its like a poster event with several open format presentations. This is a museum wide event. The title of the presentation is: "Continuing the Exploration of Deep Sea Biodiversity - NOAA/NMNH Partnership Exemplified by the Okeanos Explorer program" [19:24:20] It would be appreciated if you could bring the highlights :) [19:26:29] Steve, thanks so much for letting us know [19:26:46] Is there anything in particular you'd like us to say? happy to emphasize specific things as needed :-) [19:26:51] And so cool!!! [19:27:14] also, will get started on pre-dive brief in a few mins - running behind due to the earlier tech issues [19:27:39] LAT : 28.876126 , LON : -177.871362 , DEPTH : 1669.6688 m, TEMP : 2.33159 C, SAL : 34.55982 PSU, DO : 1.90971 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:30:10] Not right now, thanks @Sara. I think we'll have it on passively in the background. We will have a bunch of show and tell specimens we will be talking about. It runs from 1-4pm ET so we might only catch the start of the dive. [19:31:38] That sounds like a lot of fun! Hopefully the excitement hits us early on in the dive (which I know it will since it seems we're starting with seds :) ) [19:31:46] georgematsumoto leaves the room [19:32:40] LAT : 28.876138 , LON : -177.87149 , DEPTH : 1818.8575 m, TEMP : 2.1578 C, SAL : 34.58005 PSU, DO : 2.1817 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:34:44] About to do the pre-dive brief [19:35:44] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [19:37:40] LAT : 28.87607 , LON : -177.87145 , DEPTH : 1963.7776 m, TEMP : 1.99311 C, SAL : 34.59973 PSU, DO : 2.49398 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:41:21] sounds good [19:42:41] LAT : 28.875906 , LON : -177.871178 , DEPTH : 2092.4368 m, TEMP : 1.87393 C, SAL : 34.61219 PSU, DO : 2.77673 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [19:45:29] christopherkelley leaves the room [19:46:15] EX2503_DIVE09 ROV on Bottom [19:47:40] There are some Poliopogon sp sponges in the distance. Also Walteria leuckarti in foreground [19:47:42] LAT : 28.876087 , LON : -177.870789 , DEPTH : 2115.2382 m, TEMP : 1.87279 C, SAL : 34.61386 PSU, DO : 2.79029 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [19:48:11] Pretty desne community for a cobble substrate area [19:48:49] Hello all! [19:48:57] aloha e Asako! and Chris! [19:49:29] Hi Asako! [19:49:41] Hi Sara! Hi Chris! [19:51:01] These yellow patches are the basal spicule remains of large Poliopogon sp that died [19:51:24] Happy Anniversary Brian!! [19:51:42] Small Poliopogon sp [19:51:53] that was a large SPONGE PASE [19:52:05] another in the distance, looksl ike [19:52:41] LAT : 28.876225 , LON : -177.870665 , DEPTH : 2111.9871 m, TEMP : 1.88318 C, SAL : 34.61251 PSU, DO : 2.7519 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [19:54:08] The bases are a testiment to how strong the grappling type of attachment is compared to sponges that glue themselves onto the rocks. Poliopogon has specially modified spicules that are like hooks or anchors that grab the rocks and don't let go. [19:56:54] These small twig like corals are Candidella gigantea. The name refers to the size of the polyps, not the colony obviously. [19:57:38] Love when teeny species have "gigantea" names. How many "gigantea" species are there in this world?? [19:57:42] LAT : 28.876214 , LON : -177.870649 , DEPTH : 2112.6769 m, TEMP : 1.88635 C, SAL : 34.61199 PSU, DO : 2.75435 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [19:58:25] @sara - too many!! when we find another related species that is bigger... colossal, then what's next?? [19:59:25] christophermah leaves the room [20:01:07] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:02:29] christophermah leaves the room [20:02:33] Benthic shag carpet [20:02:42] LAT : 28.876195 , LON : -177.870629 , DEPTH : 2112.1891 m, TEMP : 1.88664 C, SAL : 34.61229 PSU, DO : 2.78054 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:03:09] Trapping just as much dirt as ones people put in their houses [20:04:39] christophermah leaves the room [20:07:37] christophermah leaves the room [20:07:43] LAT : 28.876224 , LON : -177.87065 , DEPTH : 2111.3771 m, TEMP : 1.88294 C, SAL : 34.61269 PSU, DO : 2.79715 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:09:32] kellymarkello leaves the room [20:10:27] @Sara when you examine the sediments, do you save any for molecular analysis? e.g. metabarcoding. Might be really cool to see whats detectable [20:10:31] christophermah leaves the room [20:11:58] Steve, I haven't been - and I'm not very used to molecular work on seds (just started getting into sedaDNA this winter,..) [20:12:08] What would you suggest for preservation? bulk seds in ethanol? [20:12:43] LAT : 28.876241 , LON : -177.870564 , DEPTH : 2111.6122 m, TEMP : 1.88491 C, SAL : 34.61336 PSU, DO : 2.73767 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:12:48] definitely unique meiofauna in there! [20:13:43] Yes Kelly! Is there a specific way that it would be helpful to preserve these for your purposes? I am following IODP protocol but alas we do not usually consider genetic work [20:13:52] If you have one of the cryotubes that you put tissues in for the Smithsonian biorepository, stick a couple of small scoops in there and fill it with ethanol. If you want, I can try and run it here and share the data. Its just like eDNA water sampling but a different medium! [20:14:42] Freezing it would be better but that's not always an option [20:15:57] We only have a dorm freezer here on the ship, so I can use the same protocol for tissues. Steve, I'd be so grateful if you'd be willing to try to run them at SI! Thank you, so much! [20:16:14] ashleymarranzino leaves the room [20:16:34] FYI I did this last year on some bacterial mat mud from the Aleutians cruise and it worked well. [20:17:13] That's awesome!!! Though bacterial mats are special :) (I just did a cruise in December to the CA borderlands and sampled a bunch of cores from the Santa Barbara Basin - amazing microbial mats!) [20:17:27] So looking forward to seeing what you find from these! Thank you, thank you! [20:17:38] maybe do one sample in formalin in addition to ethanol preserved sample? crinoids keep me busy enough, so I won't be able to check for meiofauna, but it would be good for future researchers [20:17:39] christophermah leaves the room [20:17:44] LAT : 28.876255 , LON : -177.870627 , DEPTH : 2111.6441 m, TEMP : 1.88444 C, SAL : 34.615 PSU, DO : 2.74917 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [20:18:17] Can do in formalin Kelly, will let the SDMs know [20:18:28] Mahalo! [20:19:46] The background on the subsampling request is that we typically don't sample sediments but there are established protocols for metabarocoding. It wouldn't be a stretch to look for meiofauna barcodes in a sample [20:21:34] sedaDNA is as far as I know a relatively new field in geology [20:22:25] christophermah leaves the room [20:22:45] LAT : 28.876216 , LON : -177.870594 , DEPTH : 2110.5485 m, TEMP : 1.89339 C, SAL : 34.61152 PSU, DO : 2.73339 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.5372 FTU [20:23:01] But I really hope we start adding dna protocols into our sed sampling - i've been trying to update my SOPs for fieldwork to include preserving seds for DNA work [20:24:50] Gotta start the commute home but I should be back within the hour! [20:25:11] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [20:26:05] safe commute! [20:27:45] LAT : 28.876269 , LON : -177.870648 , DEPTH : 2113.74 m, TEMP : 1.89261 C, SAL : 34.61276 PSU, DO : 2.70875 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [20:28:15] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:28:25] christophermah leaves the room [20:30:15] samcuellar leaves the room [20:32:45] LAT : 28.876289 , LON : -177.87064 , DEPTH : 2112.54 m, TEMP : 1.89166 C, SAL : 34.61239 PSU, DO : 2.76324 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:33:51] Hey Val! We collected a rock sample at the beginning of the dive - 01G [20:34:14] Hello! Sounds great, thank you! [20:36:08] Hi Val! [20:36:43] Hi Asako! [20:37:21] Umbellapathes sp [20:37:46] LAT : 28.876247 , LON : -177.870643 , DEPTH : 2112.4012 m, TEMP : 1.89703 C, SAL : 34.61113 PSU, DO : 2.7372 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [20:37:58] Excellent! Sorry to have missed the initial collection. Kinda overdid it in the lab the last few days . . . but I did lurk on the Yorktown and midwater dives when I could. Those were awesome [20:38:28] Hi Val. Looked like it was a pretty decent rock they grabbed. [20:38:44] No worries, and I hope you were able to rest a bit Val. We got a good rock - and glad that you enjoyed the Yorktown/midwater! [20:39:02] Thanks, Chris! [20:39:25] Sara, yes - got some down time today. Needed it [20:42:47] LAT : 28.876214 , LON : -177.870651 , DEPTH : 2111.9782 m, TEMP : 1.89214 C, SAL : 34.61216 PSU, DO : 2.72288 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [20:43:46] Hemicorallium sp [20:44:13] I think!? [20:44:51] Hmmmmm, it could be a paragorgiid [20:45:04] what is the small sticks on the rock? [20:45:26] for me it looked like Hemicorallium... [20:45:30] Sara, you caught the sailing bug hard! [20:45:32] sponge mught be chonelasma sp but hard to see under the rock [20:45:37] (don't blame you) [20:45:46] christophermah leaves the room [20:46:38] at least at the tips of the branches. [20:46:44] oh YES I LOVE sailing [20:47:02] I'm sure my family wants me to come back but I'd be happy out here for a long while [20:47:47] LAT : 28.876221 , LON : -177.870578 , DEPTH : 2111.1224 m, TEMP : 1.88838 C, SAL : 34.6131 PSU, DO : 2.77214 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0977 FTU [20:49:45] love how it looks like a phylogenetic tree [20:49:52] it does!! [20:49:57] Primnoidae, probably Calyptrophora [20:51:03] Bathypathes [20:52:28] christophermah leaves the room [20:52:48] LAT : 28.876461 , LON : -177.87052 , DEPTH : 2113.2094 m, TEMP : 1.89184 C, SAL : 34.61202 PSU, DO : 2.76102 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0733 FTU [20:53:28] I think Paelopatides but I'm a jelly person [20:54:15] nice soft coral [20:54:33] christophermah leaves the room [20:54:50] lindasunderland leaves the room [20:56:04] def. a synallactid.. [20:56:38] Candidella gigantea again. Its a primnoid [20:57:48] LAT : 28.876502 , LON : -177.870543 , DEPTH : 2115.8187 m, TEMP : 1.89243 C, SAL : 34.61101 PSU, DO : 2.751 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [20:58:53] christophermah leaves the room [20:58:55] Walteria leuckarti is the sponge. [20:59:23] samcuellar leaves the room [20:59:23] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [20:59:23] briankennedy leaves the room [20:59:23] chat-admin leaves the room [20:59:42] lost the video feed - or my internet is down [20:59:46] video stopped.. [21:00:25] Looks like all shipside folks were kicked from chat too [21:00:32] kellymarkello leaves the room [21:01:03] and navdata stopped too [21:01:13] we should be back [21:01:22] you're back [21:01:25] christophermah leaves the room [21:01:32] Hi Brian! [21:02:42] carnivorous sponge? [21:02:49] LAT : 28.876409 , LON : -177.870551 , DEPTH : 2115.1733 m, TEMP : 1.89243 C, SAL : 34.61209 PSU, DO : 2.72698 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:04:02] Primnoid possibly Calyptrophora [21:04:32] Primnoidae, either Paracalyptrophora or Calyptrophora [21:05:57] The type species of Walteria is Walteria flemmingi. The sponge was, oddly enough, named after ..... (wait for it) Walter Flemming if I remember correctly. [21:06:02] we need closeup of polyps of this Primnoid! [21:06:56] Unbranched Narella sp [21:07:14] Narella agree [21:07:30] and the back also looks like primnoid?? [21:07:49] LAT : 28.876589 , LON : -177.870446 , DEPTH : 2109.0799 m, TEMP : 1.89309 C, SAL : 34.6112 PSU, DO : 2.72754 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:07:54] no small colony [21:08:00] beside of this whip [21:08:13] small colony. [21:08:18] asako do you want us to go back to candellabra? if possible? [21:08:34] Ah, not possible, sorry [21:08:40] yes candellabra if possible [21:08:48] christophermah leaves the room [21:08:50] Okay, no can but will keep an eye out [21:09:02] and also branching colony beside this unbranched primnoid. [21:09:19] sorry, we are moving already... [21:10:01] there was another branching colony beside of the primnoid whip. [21:10:40] I thought the polyps were likely Primnoid but not sure. it was pinnate branching. [21:11:27] Anna subbing in for Sara for lunch [21:11:38] might be [21:12:31] christophermah leaves the room [21:12:36] briankennedy leaves the room [21:12:50] LAT : 28.876515 , LON : -177.8703 , DEPTH : 2103.4921 m, TEMP : 1.88312 C, SAL : 34.61357 PSU, DO : 2.76015 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:12:58] Calyptrophora sp I think [21:13:13] I don't see Asako on line ;-( [21:13:21] to the left branches, polyps upward [21:13:35] nm, Asako is here... [21:13:53] Calyptrophora [21:14:04] 3-4 polyps [21:14:17] collect or are we good? [21:14:22] I would suggest not collecting. [21:15:34] We've collected a lot of lyrate primnoids over the years for Steve Cairns [21:15:59] please have a close up when you find small colony with pinnate branching colony. [21:16:08] A type of hyocrinid..possibly Hyocrinus [21:16:55] second Hyocrinus as id [21:16:59] thanks for closeup [21:17:50] LAT : 28.876531 , LON : -177.870317 , DEPTH : 2101.986 m, TEMP : 1.85111 C, SAL : 34.6177 PSU, DO : 2.81857 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:18:20] Hi Kelly! [21:18:28] christophermah leaves the room [21:18:31] hi asako! [21:18:35] and Hi George! [21:18:47] hello!! [21:20:05] Coryphenoides sp [21:21:04] small one is possibly copepod? [21:21:08] Big eye, filaments coming off pelvic fins are a couple of the diagnostics [21:21:21] thanks Chris [21:22:38] ashleymarranzino leaves the room [21:22:39] Isadella candelabrum or whatever it is called now [21:22:51] LAT : 28.876662 , LON : -177.870324 , DEPTH : 2096.5141 m, TEMP : 1.84705 C, SAL : 34.61721 PSU, DO : 2.8473 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:24:12] Tridentisis candelabrum. [21:24:32] That's it, thanks Asako. [21:25:46] Caulophacus sp [21:27:20] georgematsumoto leaves the room [21:27:40] Finally got back on high speed so hopefully I can respond faster now [21:27:51] LAT : 28.876746 , LON : -177.87018 , DEPTH : 2098.3737 m, TEMP : 1.88288 C, SAL : 34.61103 PSU, DO : 2.75757 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [21:28:30] christophermah leaves the room [21:30:27] Tretopleura sp is the tall sponge [21:30:52] Yes, that's right [21:31:05] Yay! Coming back from lunch so just catching up [21:31:09] can you zoom sponge? [21:31:22] Smething growing on it [21:31:41] copy can zoom sponge [21:31:46] zoanthids [21:31:51] Paragorgia with zoanthid [21:32:51] LAT : 28.876767 , LON : -177.870043 , DEPTH : 2094.9022 m, TEMP : 1.84239 C, SAL : 34.61812 PSU, DO : 2.86456 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0855 FTU [21:33:06] I think the zoanthid name is Bullagummizoanthus emilyacadiaarum, named after Amy Baco-Taylor's daughters [21:33:34] christophermah leaves the room [21:34:18] I think this is a black coral growing on it [21:34:31] Black coral? [21:34:40] No, I'm wrong [21:34:48] more like hydroids [21:34:55] It's a hydrozoan [21:37:22] Primnoid, Paracalyptrophora sp? [21:37:41] Farreidae [21:37:52] LAT : 28.876737 , LON : -177.870098 , DEPTH : 2093.7055 m, TEMP : 1.83116 C, SAL : 34.61953 PSU, DO : 2.87337 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:38:57] It is most likely in the genus Farrea [21:40:37] missed Paracalyptrophora [21:41:05] do you mean the large colony back of sponge? Chris? [21:41:18] Yes, colony back of sponge? will zoom on that next [21:41:25] We are doing some beauty shots of sponge [21:41:33] Yes, I took a guess from a distance [21:41:39] Thank you Sara! [21:42:10] got it Chris [21:42:47] christophermah leaves the room [21:42:52] LAT : 28.876687 , LON : -177.870111 , DEPTH : 2094.6695 m, TEMP : 1.83039 C, SAL : 34.61935 PSU, DO : 2.89488 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [21:45:25] christophermah leaves the room [21:45:29] sorry, doing a long glamour shot... [21:46:28] I love this beautiful sponge shot. [21:47:11] Yay! [21:47:44] going for coral [21:47:53] LAT : 28.876703 , LON : -177.870091 , DEPTH : 2095.0077 m, TEMP : 1.83445 C, SAL : 34.61804 PSU, DO : 2.88547 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:48:38] settling down for coral [21:50:21] thoughts? [21:50:23] Definitely a primnoid [21:50:25] primnoid [21:50:59] I still think it is a Paracalyptrophora sp [21:51:34] Paracalyptrophora for me. [21:52:12] some polyps downward? hard to see [21:52:38] I am afraid its dog walking time here. I will check in when I get back in an hour or two. Sorry. [21:52:54] LAT : 28.876791 , LON : -177.870019 , DEPTH : 2091.4855 m, TEMP : 1.84323 C, SAL : 34.61633 PSU, DO : 2.84739 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [21:53:17] enjoy walking with Katie! [21:53:25] christophermah leaves the room [21:53:39] christopherkelley leaves the room [21:53:54] enjoy the walk, no sorry! [21:55:11] i'm watching.. [21:55:19] hi sorry to call you out on air hahaha [21:55:40] no worries. just letting you know.. :-) [21:57:18] A goniasterid.. could be the same Ahuastra we collected before. [21:57:55] LAT : 28.876859 , LON : -177.869952 , DEPTH : 2089.8917 m, TEMP : 1.84663 C, SAL : 34.61736 PSU, DO : 2.82856 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [21:58:08] ha ha. sure! [21:58:27] Thank you chris!! [21:58:36] I'm waiting for one of those coral predators.. i'm wondering where they are! [21:59:43] Tretopleura sp. [22:00:25] christophermah leaves the room [22:00:39] ooo! [22:00:44] first one! [22:01:38] nice view of stomach while eating [22:01:48] YES I'm dancing in here with excitement about the stomach [22:01:53] while brian talks coral predation! [22:02:32] ?called in? [22:02:48] can you not hear us? [22:02:55] LAT : 28.876939 , LON : -177.86999 , DEPTH : 2090.8716 m, TEMP : 1.87799 C, SAL : 34.61327 PSU, DO : 2.7502 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [22:03:03] Huh... sorry, chris!! [22:03:08] we will troubleshoot [22:03:19] wierd. I called in. nobody heard me? [22:03:31] not at all! [22:03:43] did you end up on air? so sorry if we talked over you [22:03:55] Hippasteria [22:03:59] i didn't hear chris [22:04:04] we are rebooting then please come on back! [22:04:06] no.. [22:04:19] no worries. moving on..there will be another [22:04:25] sorry, been struggling today with the phone lines. we've had to reboot multiple times [22:04:30] okay, we will be ready for you then! [22:04:34] thank you :') [22:06:07] Narella [22:06:39] christophermah leaves the room [22:06:59] the phone line is connected again [22:07:18] ok [22:07:56] LAT : 28.877018 , LON : -177.86988 , DEPTH : 2089.9046 m, TEMP : 1.87924 C, SAL : 34.61416 PSU, DO : 2.73551 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [22:08:53] tiny colony at the base of Walteria [22:10:25] christophermah leaves the room [22:11:18] Paragorgia and bamboo whip [22:11:58] waiting on tether then would the large potentially narellas in background be of interst? [22:12:57] LAT : 28.877105 , LON : -177.869844 , DEPTH : 2089.4049 m, TEMP : 1.88444 C, SAL : 34.61274 PSU, DO : 2.77655 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.116 FTU [22:13:25] christophermah leaves the room [22:15:41] christophermah leaves the room [22:16:41] CHRIS MAH WE SEE A SEA STAR [22:16:48] that will be our next target [22:17:17] that large fan may be bamboo? [22:17:30] oh thank god both my kids are finally napping [22:17:34] just passed before anemone [22:17:58] LAT : 28.877192 , LON : -177.869748 , DEPTH : 2089.1225 m, TEMP : 1.88491 C, SAL : 34.61176 PSU, DO : 2.74454 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.1099 FTU [22:18:07] congrats kelly woof! thanks for tuning in while the kiddos were around [22:18:53] normally i'd only have one here, but they're both sick so no school. hoping my older kid goes back to school tomorrow so it will be far easier to hear/focus [22:19:04] I hear the word "sea star" bandied about.. [22:19:12] :-) [22:19:19] YES WE ARE READY CHRIS [22:19:30] And oh no Kelly! fingers crossed your kids get better soon :( [22:21:44] about to pounce! [22:21:48] chris mah if you want to call in we'd love to have you, but no worries if not - can wait for sea star predation too! [22:22:03] calling [22:22:09] YAY [22:22:18] soniarowley leaves the room [22:22:59] LAT : 28.877134 , LON : -177.86979 , DEPTH : 2087.3814 m, TEMP : 1.8876 C, SAL : 34.61295 PSU, DO : 2.7551 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [22:23:35] christophermah leaves the room [22:23:52] would love to hear corallivory story sometime [22:23:57] thank you chris this is awesome! [22:27:59] LAT : 28.877334 , LON : -177.869643 , DEPTH : 2087.4583 m, TEMP : 1.89703 C, SAL : 34.61135 PSU, DO : 2.75346 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [22:28:46] Paragorgiid [22:28:53] it WOULD suck to get pulled off of my dinner ! [22:28:57] mahalo asako! [22:29:00] Sara, at this ‘shallower’ depth you should start seeing more mollusks associated with the tube sponges and whip corals. Especially the Coralliophilidae. [22:29:24] Thank you Linda! Can't wait and we'll keep an eye out for the mollusks. Was wondering if there were a number of aplacophora earlier... [22:29:49] Oh interesting, these might the first in-place lavas we've seen (at least since I tuned in) [22:30:07] Oh, amazing! thanks val we'll try to get a good view of them [22:31:34] nice gooseneck barnacle [22:32:07] does barcacles notice us? [22:32:21] probably felt current [22:32:33] prop from D2 I bet [22:32:45] could be!! [22:33:00] LAT : 28.877405 , LON : -177.869636 , DEPTH : 2084.791 m, TEMP : 1.89578 C, SAL : 34.61211 PSU, DO : 2.73755 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0672 FTU [22:33:51] hahaha, I miss island time [22:34:22] island time is the best! unless you're running late haha [22:34:27] (to an important thing, I should say) [22:34:31] but I love it :-) [22:34:36] True! [22:36:28] Could I ask what depth the first rock sample was taken at? Mainly trying to get a sense of where it might be best to grab a second sample [22:36:47] christophermah leaves the room [22:37:10] Yep, gimme one sec but it should have been more or less 2170m [22:37:16] currently at 2080m [22:37:56] diverse spot!! [22:38:01] LAT : 28.877387 , LON : -177.869589 , DEPTH : 2082.055 m, TEMP : 1.89417 C, SAL : 34.61138 PSU, DO : 2.72448 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [22:38:33] first rock was 2111m depth [22:38:40] Thanks! [22:38:44] you bet! [22:39:45] christophermah leaves the room [22:40:34] ha ha. Gimongo? [22:40:56] Gimongo sponge!! [22:41:43] stalk of kind of Caulophacus sponge? [22:43:01] LAT : 28.877441 , LON : -177.869464 , DEPTH : 2079.9732 m, TEMP : 1.89291 C, SAL : 34.61162 PSU, DO : 2.75724 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0977 FTU [22:44:01] Yeah, this area looks like it's feeding a lot of organisms. Maybe it was advantageous to get higher up into the current at some point? [22:44:05] Kinda like giraffe necks [22:44:07] I heard that the single sponge stalk spicle sometimes up to 3 m. [22:44:23] WHAT! that is so wild!!! [22:44:55] van Soest, sponge taxonomist in the Netherlands talked me that story in his experience. [22:46:48] is that a star on the sponge? [22:47:02] was there? [22:47:15] samcuellar leaves the room [22:47:19] sorry about that [22:47:33] ah no. just wishful thinking [22:47:39] we can manifest them [22:47:55] we'll just start talking about corals and one will pop [22:47:58] iup [22:48:02] LAT : 28.877627 , LON : -177.869345 , DEPTH : 2076.1687 m, TEMP : 1.88587 C, SAL : 34.6125 PSU, DO : 2.71628 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [22:48:19] or sometimes we have advisors who have strange opinions on pronunciations! sympathies on self-taught science... I learned a lot of weird ways of pronouncing things as a kid. [22:48:28] Reminds me a lot of the tall stalked sponges we were finding in the Lili'uokalanis, further north [22:49:04] A synallactid [22:49:11] so true kelly! we all have our academic and personal genealogy that influences how we talk! [22:49:40] Maybe not this tall though [22:50:01] can we see the head of this dead sponge stalk? [22:50:15] long boi [22:50:53] thanks I could see it [22:51:55] okay good! [22:51:58] thanks asakko [22:52:25] christophermah leaves the room [22:52:38] samcuellar leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [22:52:48] ha ha.. that was an illusion I saw a LOT when I was out there! [22:53:02] LAT : 28.877779 , LON : -177.869274 , DEPTH : 2071.3912 m, TEMP : 1.87703 C, SAL : 34.61328 PSU, DO : 2.75162 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [22:53:11] I am trying to not blurt things out too soon but often failing! [22:54:15] ohhh [22:54:24] That looks like hyaloclastite [22:54:36] pyrite? [22:55:16] bang on!! faster than i could type it in [22:55:21] we will see if we can get back in and see more [22:55:31] thanks val I googled it hahaha [22:55:37] sample? [22:55:41] hahahaha [22:55:46] idk how we would but very cool [22:55:55] No sample for that stuff - it's hard to work with because it's suuuuuper altered [22:56:00] aaah gotcha! [22:56:07] Thanks for checking! [22:56:15] sounds good, hope that video was good for ID though! and you bet :-) [22:57:26] wow add that to the geology life list [22:57:41] Probably the ROV is near the vent where that erupted. We interpret the hyaloclastites as having deposited close to where they are erupted. Pretty energetic environment [22:57:54] Don't think we'll see the vent itself though [22:58:02] WHAT [22:58:03] LAT : 28.877835 , LON : -177.869275 , DEPTH : 2068.0675 m, TEMP : 1.88038 C, SAL : 34.61241 PSU, DO : 2.7658 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [22:58:08] I want to see that too! [22:58:16] 2008 in the Lau Basin [22:59:13] much less rubble here, lots more large sponge [22:59:35] much less rubble, much more sponge [23:00:02] There is video footage of shallow pillow basalts erupting in Hawii [23:00:03] have substrate, will sponge [23:00:30] poliopogon [23:00:58] hahaha val love [23:01:00] ooo! [23:01:01] hyaloclastite is pretty friable, so it comes apart more easily than the regular (less altered) lava [23:01:21] ooo so could be totally possible that it got hit by a regular ol' cobble and cracked open? [23:01:34] Or would weathering from water be enough to crack it? [23:01:42] christophermah leaves the room [23:02:10] Cobbles might've cracked some of it open. Not sure about water processes! They are very soft rock - easy to cut on a saw [23:02:28] That's so cool, thanks so much for the info!!! [23:03:03] LAT : 28.87786 , LON : -177.869242 , DEPTH : 2065.2023 m, TEMP : 1.88097 C, SAL : 34.61282 PSU, DO : 2.76338 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:03:31] no prob! Looking at the ship's position, that might be part of the summit system or near where the summit transitions into the rift the ROV was following upslope [23:04:09] doing some imaging of sponge fyi [23:04:49] Not sure if it's relevant here, but I've been yellowy rocks in the past that had changed to that color due to fluid flow from the seafloor [23:04:56] (I've seen) [23:04:57] And val, looking forward to seeing more upslope - love that! [23:05:25] christophermah leaves the room [23:05:53] Katy - that's probably an important process in making the hyaloclastites. The hydrothermal alteration and fragmentation in the water column probably happen about at the same time, which is why they're so much more altered than the "normal" lavas around them [23:06:02] ie the yellow may not be the result of the original formation process. but again, i'm less familiar with this location [23:07:08] primnoid maybe Narella? [23:07:25] christophermah leaves the room [23:07:26] Definitely - a lot of alteration processes happen later too [23:08:04] LAT : 28.877965 , LON : -177.869176 , DEPTH : 2063.5398 m, TEMP : 1.88163 C, SAL : 34.61225 PSU, DO : 2.74945 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:08:09] cool. thanks! [23:08:45] oh weird. Asteroschema [23:08:48] NO HOST [23:09:11] sorry man! [23:09:15] samcuellar leaves the room [23:09:26] is it missing a leg? [23:09:32] I've got a hyaloclastite in my office that I'm going to try to subsample and see whether it's usable. It has quite well-preserved (for Cretaceous lavas) basalt clasts in this matrix of highly altered, yellow lava fragments. Some of the fragments even transition between basalt and hyaloclastite. Kinda wild texture [23:10:09] Sara, your enthusiasm is good for our souls [23:10:38] oh thank you Katy! [23:10:43] :') [23:11:25] :-D [23:11:27] christophermah leaves the room [23:12:56] wow. how BIG is that? [23:13:04] LAT : 28.878057 , LON : -177.86921 , DEPTH : 2061.3772 m, TEMP : 1.86921 C, SAL : 34.61313 PSU, DO : 2.7576 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:14:05] I like these rocks too [23:14:54] val, thoughts on when to take next rock sample? [23:15:05] You're reading my mind, Sara [23:15:07] we are on bottom for another 2 hrs so have lots of time [23:15:12] :-) [23:15:31] I was thinking maybe if there's a bio collection, also a rock collection, but I'd be happy with a rock anytime. There have been no shortage of good ones this dive [23:15:35] rock sample here? feel free to direct us whenever, Val [23:15:44] Okay, copy that on a double if can [23:15:48] Brian, explain that 2 m is more than SIX FEET TALL! Like those sponges are taller than most people [23:16:05] Okay, cool. I'll shout when it's rock o'clock, but let's enjoy the coral garden for now : ) [23:16:15] ("2 m" always sounds so small to me, but it's huge) [23:16:35] christophermah leaves the room [23:17:00] sounds good, will be ready for rock o'clock - and will keep an eye for loose rocks w/ bio candidates [23:17:25] lylate branching below the rock [23:18:05] LAT : 28.878172 , LON : -177.869259 , DEPTH : 2054.9096 m, TEMP : 1.88264 C, SAL : 34.61293 PSU, DO : 2.72893 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:18:47] impressive current [23:18:55] ha ha. sorry coral! [23:19:27] couldn't see the details of polyps because of the current! [23:19:52] we call sea star beast for the coral)) [23:20:46] christophermah leaves the room [23:20:50] probably large fans Paracalyptrophora? [23:22:07] oooo! [23:22:15] samcuellar leaves the room [23:22:29] oooooo! [23:23:06] LAT : 28.878272 , LON : -177.869258 , DEPTH : 2052.4237 m, TEMP : 1.87829 C, SAL : 34.61281 PSU, DO : 2.76516 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:23:10] katybell leaves the room [23:23:22] I think that's Henricia [23:23:27] those eat sponges [23:23:31] first one [23:24:02] I always think its funny that people call stars "Patrick" but forget how many of them eat sponges [23:24:37] maybe that's why they are friends... patrick is playing the long game [23:24:44] Brian, that's wild [23:24:55] ooof! [23:25:00] clearly you need to write the biologically accurate spinoff, chris [23:25:30] one not set in bikini bottom - spongebob and patrick are probably hella mutated from the radiation :( [23:26:11] even more fun for the plot! [23:28:07] LAT : 28.878359 , LON : -177.86914 , DEPTH : 2052.8918 m, TEMP : 1.87781 C, SAL : 34.61309 PSU, DO : 2.76263 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:28:19] someone already did it! https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBikiniBottomHorror/comments/gljbhm/the_bikini_bottom_horror_full_comic_updated_weekly/?rdt=42059 [23:28:32] omg i love the internet [23:28:41] ahahahahaha [23:28:45] Caulophacus (Caulodiscus) sp is the stalked sponge [23:29:04] @Cmah - amazing!!! [23:29:15] ha ha. [23:29:42] This genus has a lot of subgenera because it still needs a lot of taxonomic work [23:29:46] any need to sample these big Prims or sponges [23:29:56] ? [23:30:16] I don't think so but ask asako [23:30:45] Hi Chris! [23:31:29] well, I'm interested in the small pinnate ?primnoid we saw earlier. [23:31:46] not for the collection. but I've not see it again. [23:32:29] Someone has been doing some target shooting down here. [23:33:05] for these big primnoid, they are mixture of different genera I think... [23:33:09] LAT : 28.878376 , LON : -177.869293 , DEPTH : 2049.1003 m, TEMP : 1.86867 C, SAL : 34.61484 PSU, DO : 2.76237 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:33:10] katybell leaves the room [23:33:14] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:33:29] Can you zoom the stalked thing in front of the other Poliopogon to the right when you are done here? [23:34:42] Yes, I think it is dead or I would ask for sample [23:34:54] Yes, its dead unfortunately [23:35:13] It's a farreid but I'm not sure its in the genus Farrea [23:35:25] christophermah leaves the room [23:36:04] is that the stalk of the farreid that has the large cup-shaped head? [23:36:22] we saw some earlier that had those "wing" protusions on the stalk below [23:37:58] Fish is Kumba sp [23:38:08] LAT : 28.878543 , LON : -177.869094 , DEPTH : 2049.3318 m, TEMP : 1.86855 C, SAL : 34.61448 PSU, DO : 2.78227 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:38:42] bamboo [23:38:51] nodal brancher [23:39:16] val we are getting a rock... we are putting it in a bio box [23:39:19] Good call Brian [23:39:21] I'm here for it. The rubble looks great [23:39:30] and it's probably very close to in place [23:39:56] dead center [23:40:03] I wonder if this is Isadella trichotoma. I need to look at the guide abit to confirm [23:40:10] katybell leaves the room [23:41:30] great rock [23:42:50] Yes, I think I. trichotoma is a good guess. It's named for the 3 branches that come out of the base, which that colony had. [23:43:09] LAT : 28.878513 , LON : -177.869114 , DEPTH : 2050.1126 m, TEMP : 1.85631 C, SAL : 34.61546 PSU, DO : 2.82599 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0549 FTU [23:43:22] samcuellar leaves the room [23:43:47] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:43:48] woo! [23:43:56] Thanks pilots! [23:45:29] very few crinoids! [23:45:43] i think just the one hyocrinid [23:45:47] Val, they are diving on what I think could be a partially buried Cretaceous guyot. They are starting below the terrace, hopefully deep enough to find some basalt. Rocks will be important to collect there [23:47:30] Chris, agreed. Too many rocks to pick from here - it's a good problem to have [23:47:53] I'm hopeful that at least one of these will be a good argon geochronology candidate [23:48:09] LAT : 28.878708 , LON : -177.86917 , DEPTH : 2048.5411 m, TEMP : 1.85297 C, SAL : 34.61616 PSU, DO : 2.78278 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:48:19] sarakahanamoku leaves the room [23:51:45] lindasunderland leaves the room [23:51:47] It's a good to be a little choosier on rocks when we have this much sitting around as well. One thing we quickly learned on NA154 with the rocks from these smaller seamounts is that they produce a lot of rocks that are more challenging to date. It was often a lack of phenocrysts in the rocks, but often higher alteration state was a factor [23:52:38] I'm a little concerned about higher alteration state here, but we really won't know for sure what the rocks will look like until they're sliced [23:52:55] val, definitely feel free to be picky (today and all dives) if a rock looks "meh" [23:53:10] LAT : 28.878829 , LON : -177.869101 , DEPTH : 2050.7706 m, TEMP : 1.8449 C, SAL : 34.6169 PSU, DO : 2.82794 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:53:21] I'm watching [23:53:47] can you sample? [23:53:57] Sara, I'm good at being picky! I think that last one looked great. I'll be curious to learn what the interior looks like [23:54:12] fingers crossed :-) and we like picky here! [23:54:30] Haha, excellent! [23:54:35] I'm not sure its quite the same thing but is still an interesting Farreid [23:55:12] I'm trying to confirm if the genus Aspidoscopulia is present in Hawaii [23:55:21] oooo! [23:55:50] okay, so Chris K - field ID Farreid, sample reason Range Extension? [23:55:59] or would you prefer a different field ID? [23:56:49] chat-admin leaves the room [23:56:58] Yes, and it could be a new species too. It's just hard to say without looking at it under the scope [23:58:10] LAT : 28.878883 , LON : -177.869148 , DEPTH : 2050.3651 m, TEMP : 1.84156 C, SAL : 34.61878 PSU, DO : 2.78216 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.0611 FTU [23:58:39] Yes, if you have really good imagery along with the specimen