[09:07:40] EX2205_DIVE04 ROV powered off [09:45:10] EX2205_DIVE05 TEST MESSAGE [09:45:45] EX2205_DIVE05 ROV powered off [10:13:57] Good morning. We're on station, weather looks great, vehicles preparing to launch. [10:25:57] EX2205_DIVE05 ROV Launch [10:31:23] EX2205_DIVE05 ROV on Surface [10:32:13] ashtonflinders leaves the room [10:32:37] EX2205_DIVE05 ROV Descending [10:33:10] LAT : 42.336475 , LON : -29.148423 , DEPTH : 27.3525 m, TEMP : 19.02455 C, SAL : 36.03653 PSU, DO : 7.97398 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9219 FTU [10:38:10] LAT : 42.337124 , LON : -29.148539 , DEPTH : 49.0787 m, TEMP : 16.93224 C, SAL : 36.06752 PSU, DO : 7.9831 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 1.0012 FTU [10:43:10] LAT : 42.337533 , LON : -29.14861 , DEPTH : 172.3873 m, TEMP : 14.652 C, SAL : 35.95238 PSU, DO : 7.20191 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.8974 FTU [10:48:11] LAT : 42.337512 , LON : -29.148671 , DEPTH : 317.6447 m, TEMP : 13.68987 C, SAL : 35.80741 PSU, DO : 7.12933 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9341 FTU [10:53:12] LAT : 42.337785 , LON : -29.148792 , DEPTH : 479.6646 m, TEMP : 12.00981 C, SAL : 35.53573 PSU, DO : 6.01841 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [10:53:41] dereksowers leaves the room [10:58:12] LAT : 42.33808 , LON : -29.149025 , DEPTH : 630.4635 m, TEMP : 10.07798 C, SAL : 35.33871 PSU, DO : 5.67074 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9707 FTU [10:58:20] Just preparing for our pre-dive brief... [11:03:13] LAT : 42.338265 , LON : -29.149172 , DEPTH : 786.2339 m, TEMP : 8.61694 C, SAL : 35.3062 PSU, DO : 5.84171 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9768 FTU [11:08:13] LAT : 42.33858 , LON : -29.149304 , DEPTH : 800.1534 m, TEMP : 8.57946 C, SAL : 35.31176 PSU, DO : 5.88531 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [11:13:13] LAT : 42.338952 , LON : -29.149483 , DEPTH : 801.5606 m, TEMP : 8.60316 C, SAL : 35.30505 PSU, DO : 5.86085 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [11:15:46] Hello everyone from the ECC in Horta, Faial [11:16:11] Hi Carlos! [11:16:37] I'm eager to see fields of black coral now! What genus are we talking about? [11:17:33] They are Leiopathes, like the orange ones we saw the other day. Although the ones we saw in this are were much larger [11:17:59] I thought they might be Leiopathes given Telmo referenced the very old ages. [11:18:13] LAT : 42.339092 , LON : -29.149687 , DEPTH : 801.6442 m, TEMP : 8.61317 C, SAL : 35.30583 PSU, DO : 5.84758 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [11:18:44] I'm familiar with large stands of Stichopathes (or probably now Aphanostichopathes), but not fields of Leiopathes. I always have seen them in ones and twos. [11:22:46] In this link you can see a short clip from the images filmed in one of the ridges on the northern part of the ZEE: https://twitter.com/AzoresDeepSea/status/1402344774254923777 [11:23:14] LAT : 42.339101 , LON : -29.149942 , DEPTH : 801.3143 m, TEMP : 8.62447 C, SAL : 35.30595 PSU, DO : 5.84721 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9707 FTU [11:24:06] The images are from the last year's Eurofleets+ cruise Telmo was referring earier [11:25:56] My experience with Leiopathes is they are most common on the shallower end of the depth range that I am used to working (so shallower than 1500 m)... What depth was that video from? [11:26:44] Around 1000 m depth [11:26:59] Perfect! [11:27:26] Do you know the species? That is, do you already have samples from this depth range and general area? [11:28:14] LAT : 42.339051 , LON : -29.150154 , DEPTH : 806.4787 m, TEMP : 8.58256 C, SAL : 35.30862 PSU, DO : 5.83917 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9768 FTU [11:33:15] LAT : 42.339095 , LON : -29.150105 , DEPTH : 965.8491 m, TEMP : 7.17891 C, SAL : 35.27004 PSU, DO : 6.54371 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [11:34:50] Approx 60 mab [11:35:57] telmomorato leaves the room [11:36:52] We have some samples from similar depths from other areas, not from this area north of the ZEE. We have them labelled as Leiopathes cf. expansa, although it would be good to collect a sample to confirm this identification since this species is similar to L. grimaldii. [11:38:15] LAT : 42.339269 , LON : -29.150258 , DEPTH : 1045.3371 m, TEMP : 6.41104 C, SAL : 35.21635 PSU, DO : 6.99923 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [11:43:15] LAT : 42.339457 , LON : -29.150178 , DEPTH : 1071.1686 m, TEMP : 6.24155 C, SAL : 35.19381 PSU, DO : 7.05724 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [11:43:28] EX2205_DIVE05 ROV on Bottom [11:45:48] Looks like we will have lots to look at and discuss! [11:47:28] hOPLOSTETHUS [11:47:43] Orange roughy [11:48:16] LAT : 42.339537 , LON : -29.150121 , DEPTH : 1074.0863 m, TEMP : 6.24401 C, SAL : 35.19496 PSU, DO : 7.07759 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [11:50:06] As far as we are aware, there has been no fishing from Local vessels in this area. In our previous dives we saw no lost fishing gear [11:52:43] We saw cf Leiopathes on the left [11:53:17] LAT : 42.339588 , LON : -29.150164 , DEPTH : 1071.117 m, TEMP : 6.2355 C, SAL : 35.19458 PSU, DO : 7.10018 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [11:53:21] Scott, can we have the lasers on when cruising? [11:53:52] Thnaks! [11:53:53] Thanks Carlos! [11:57:33] Hello all [11:57:35] cindyvandover leaves the room [11:58:11] Acanella arbuscula was also abundant in some areas of these ridges [11:58:17] LAT : 42.339637 , LON : -29.150241 , DEPTH : 1071.6834 m, TEMP : 6.23422 C, SAL : 35.19371 PSU, DO : 7.07867 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [11:59:06] It would be nice to collect the bamboo.. [11:59:35] The sponge might be Hertwigia falcifera.. [12:00:08] Not Acanella... the Isididae [12:00:40] typical Acanella [12:00:56] emilycrum leaves the room [12:02:01] to sample the one that can be Keratoisis or Lepidisis due to branching type (whip or branched)... [12:02:37] Got it Manuela. [12:03:14] Enallopsammia rostrata [12:03:18] LAT : 42.339655 , LON : -29.150113 , DEPTH : 1069.4353 m, TEMP : 6.27927 C, SAL : 35.20138 PSU, DO : 7.04355 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:08:18] LAT : 42.33955 , LON : -29.15002 , DEPTH : 1069.4813 m, TEMP : 6.30633 C, SAL : 35.19857 PSU, DO : 7.04981 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:09:05] For those joining us for the first time, you might get kicked out of the chat when using the Chrome browser. Firefox tends to let you stay in the chat longer [12:11:20] michaelvecchione leaves the room [12:11:32] We see a lot Synaphobranchus kaupii at this depths but it's hard to say [12:11:43] @Manuela and others. There are Keratoisis that are whips. Most need to be redescribed. And Scott and I have Lepidisis that is branched. But we have not described it yet. [12:12:06] yellow one Acanthogorgiid? [12:12:07] Also, Isididae is now restricted to shallow tropics of Indo-West Pacific [12:12:24] Agree Asako [12:12:49] Hi Les! [12:13:13] Hi Asako and say hi to Tina if she is watching [12:13:19] LAT : 42.339575 , LON : -29.150019 , DEPTH : 1067.2921 m, TEMP : 6.31018 C, SAL : 35.20443 PSU, DO : 7.0398 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:13:41] telmomorato leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [12:14:42] @Les yes she is watching. pass Hello from Tina to you! [12:15:58] Leiopathes probably expansa by Tina [12:16:44] but maybe grimaldi as well [12:17:37] squat lobster Gastroptychus formosus association to L. expansa or grimaldi [12:18:20] LAT : 42.339589 , LON : -29.149991 , DEPTH : 1065.202 m, TEMP : 6.28456 C, SAL : 35.20093 PSU, DO : 7.06221 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [12:18:24] For anyone who is interested, here is a link to a dropbox folder where you can copy the bamboo revision papers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dgxzxtq197pvzcn/AACIwx-DgDd6APnrnPrVbtQ-a?dl=0 [12:18:27] good location for L. expansa/grimaldi [12:18:43] "it was great zoom" from Tina to Pilot! [12:19:24] Hi everyone, just tuning in. Any cool sponges yet? Beautiful black corals [12:20:06] Hi Joana. A ton of sponges and corals and fishes and... And we've hardly moved! [12:20:18] We are taking a smaple of this Leiopathes [12:20:27] :-D [12:20:29] Hello Joana! [12:20:54] looks like there's a Pheronema carpenteri on the background there [12:21:16] but a zoom would be needed to say for sure [12:22:09] Probably you said this Scott, but the Leiopathes off Hawaii was determined to be the oldest living animal when collected. But no one has had the courage to grab another whole colony to see if it might have a similar age structure. [12:22:13] Joana: do you mean the barrel in upper right? [12:23:19] @Les: I didn't add that context, so that is good. Thans. [12:23:21] LAT : 42.339627 , LON : -29.150005 , DEPTH : 1065.5162 m, TEMP : 6.28344 C, SAL : 35.1923 PSU, DO : 7.06287 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:23:37] @Scott, yes exactly [12:24:17] The problem of course is that you need the basal part of the axis.... [12:24:56] Does "old colony" = "old animal"? [12:25:59] Hi Les, we have some large corals accidentally caught by local s fishers in the Azores in the 1980's. We will have some estimates by the end of the year or early next year. For now this is the oldest collected in the Azores https://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v473/p189-199 [12:26:10] Interesting pphilosophical question [12:26:18] probably not, to be more precise. Although with black corals the axis has living tissue around it for the whole 4000 years, unlike hard corals. [12:26:50] Hi Telmo! Thanks for that info... [12:26:58] Collection complete [12:27:31] PS having internet problems today in the forest of Virginia [12:27:39] I suppose black corals are not much different from us. We continuously change our skin cells... [12:28:20] LAT : 42.339612 , LON : -29.149986 , DEPTH : 1064.6665 m, TEMP : 6.36357 C, SAL : 35.21005 PSU, DO : 7.00876 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:28:49] elisabettamenini leaves the room [12:31:09] There is also a small Acanthogorgid behind [12:31:28] @Scott, Pheronema is an ASPIRE priority species, but I wouldn't collect the first one we see. If we are lucky we'll come across a Pheronema field and we can then collect one. Also, just fyi it will release some mucus upon collection. [12:31:47] And it would be nice to have more samples of this Alcyonacean [12:32:49] telmomorato leaves the room [12:33:21] LAT : 42.339641 , LON : -29.14999 , DEPTH : 1063.2404 m, TEMP : 6.31146 C, SAL : 35.2019 PSU, DO : 7.03028 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [12:33:39] Unfortunately the majority of the thin encrusting sponges are impossible to identify without a sample. [12:34:21] oreo? [12:34:47] yes, it does look like the birds's nest sponge, Pheronema carpenteri [12:35:05] Neocyttus helgae the oreo fish [12:35:20] great zoom! [12:35:48] Thx, we saw some also in the NW Atlantic on the New England seamounts, or was it Corner Rise... [12:36:11] slurp thos amphipods!! [12:36:46] bamboo to the right [12:36:50] No way we can slurp in that sponge. [12:37:04] too bad! [12:37:21] @Les, were you referring to the sponge? Did you find it in New England/Corner Rise seamounts? That would be very interesting [12:38:21] @Joana, no to the oreo, although that sponge might have been there too. We should get you a set of image from there since no one has identified the sponges. [12:38:23] LAT : 42.33972 , LON : -29.149981 , DEPTH : 1062.3088 m, TEMP : 6.41238 C, SAL : 35.20796 PSU, DO : 6.9839 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [12:38:55] So I'm seeing (peripherally) lots of requests for samples. All good, but keep in mind we can only take a limited number, so it should be the most important or critical samples. I now very well as someone whose research depends on lots of samples how hard it is to make those choices, but that is what we are faced with. Also, I apologize if at times it appears I am ignoring the chat. I'm not trying to but hard to eatch the feed and read ALL the comments. [12:39:20] @Les, ok, thanks! Sure, happy to look at the sponges from those areas. [12:40:04] Hang in there @Scott, lots going on! The agony of a shallower dive. [12:40:35] Yup! [12:40:52] not sure what this sponge may be, can we zoom in? Is it stalked? [12:41:49] elisabettamenini leaves the room [12:42:32] aplacophoran on there? [12:42:49] exactly [12:43:02] large white [12:43:09] to the left [12:43:19] Swiftia also has different color of polyps-tissure [12:43:23] LAT : 42.339738 , LON : -29.149897 , DEPTH : 1064.1882 m, TEMP : 6.3213 C, SAL : 35.20512 PSU, DO : 7.04484 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [12:44:24] I really don't know what this species may be, other than glass sponge [12:44:38] taraluke leaves the room [12:44:40] it would be a good target for collection [12:45:20] it has a really unusual shape [12:45:36] Copy thta Joana. If we find one in a stable location, will do. [12:45:48] @Scott, great, thanks [12:47:49] telmomorato leaves the room [12:48:23] LAT : 42.339726 , LON : -29.149903 , DEPTH : 1062.0469 m, TEMP : 6.3268 C, SAL : 35.20154 PSU, DO : 7.04668 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [12:49:54] just for information to the black coral scientists, we saw huge colonies very similar to this one on seamounts of the Sierra Leone Rise (off West Africa) earlier this year. [12:52:06] michaelvecchione leaves the room [12:53:07] @Scott: with climate changing in the deep-sea, it might well be that recovery of these corals is unlikely [12:53:24] LAT : 42.339658 , LON : -29.149941 , DEPTH : 1060.0726 m, TEMP : 6.33536 C, SAL : 35.206 PSU, DO : 7.02487 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [12:53:40] Thas the bamboo type I was saying before [12:54:01] @Thank you Joana. I will pass the information to Tina [12:54:28] I would be interesting to sample this species [12:54:57] @Manuela: do you mean the bamboo coral on top of the rock? [12:55:21] My guess is this is our clade F1 bamboo. Tall polyps, one or two branches. [12:55:22] yes! [12:55:27] @asako, thanks! [12:56:17] elisabettamenini leaves the room [12:56:32] It's very common here... I think it will show up many times during the dive [12:57:10] what is the dots to the left of Leiopathes [12:57:14] on the rock [12:57:51] swimming crinoids ) [12:58:24] LAT : 42.33969 , LON : -29.149932 , DEPTH : 1060.2841 m, TEMP : 6.31793 C, SAL : 35.20294 PSU, DO : 7.0388 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [13:02:18] Thanks! [13:03:25] LAT : 42.339749 , LON : -29.149829 , DEPTH : 1060.902 m, TEMP : 6.28681 C, SAL : 35.20334 PSU, DO : 7.06075 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [13:03:54] taraluke leaves the room [13:04:49] telmomorato leaves the room [13:08:26] LAT : 42.339684 , LON : -29.149667 , DEPTH : 1056.6016 m, TEMP : 6.35342 C, SAL : 35.20638 PSU, DO : 7.02693 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [13:09:39] some kind of morid [13:11:14] Joana: is this a different glass ponge - the frilly one on right? [13:11:19] It would be nice a close up of this bamboo, just to know if is the same of the anterior we have colected or a different one [13:11:30] And perhaps another forming a kind of wall further right [13:11:52] Stand by for zoom on bamboo. We are waiting for the ship to mov so that D2 can move [13:11:57] @Scott, I see at least 3-4 different ones, we'd need to zoom in on each [13:13:27] LAT : 42.339763 , LON : -29.149644 , DEPTH : 1058.5515 m, TEMP : 6.34695 C, SAL : 35.20434 PSU, DO : 7.0266 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [13:15:35] Inadvertently "sampled" that Parantipathes. [13:16:56] telmomorato leaves the room [13:17:14] Is this a Keratoisis? [13:18:25] Eknomisis? would be amazing to have it too... but... [13:18:27] LAT : 42.339745 , LON : -29.149604 , DEPTH : 1058.0453 m, TEMP : 6.32018 C, SAL : 35.20289 PSU, DO : 7.034 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [13:18:29] the resolution of my image has gotten very low, probably due to internet issues, but I am guessing either a J clade or Eknomisis depending on branch origins [13:18:37] It is either Keratoisis or Eknomisis. [13:18:50] They are so cloesly related it is hard to separate from these veiws. [13:18:59] Les may have an opinion. [13:19:03] color suggests Eknomisis. [13:19:45] Eknomisis. That is what the polyps look like when only half contracted [13:20:22] Also, in Atlantic Eknomisis has red coenenchyme, yellow in Pacific [13:22:28] oh wow, no not Aphrocallistes [13:23:04] it reminds more of Chonelasma [13:23:28] LAT : 42.339723 , LON : -29.149594 , DEPTH : 1056.7397 m, TEMP : 6.32889 C, SAL : 35.20122 PSU, DO : 7.02937 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9402 FTU [13:23:29] can we zoom in more onto the wall? [13:24:04] I've also seen a lot of Chonelasma and Hertwigia at the area [13:24:18] the yellow one is probably Hertwigia falcifera [13:24:23] a glass sponge [13:27:24] beautiful view! There should be two shrimp living inside [13:28:06] wow! [13:28:29] LAT : 42.339749 , LON : -29.149631 , DEPTH : 1059.3385 m, TEMP : 6.35278 C, SAL : 35.20646 PSU, DO : 6.99576 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [13:29:09] this is either an Euplectella or Regadrella [13:29:13] Jim Thomas and I described an amphipod pair that were also trapped, but in that case, inside Aphrocalistes [13:30:04] and the shrimp live in a beautiful glass combo [13:30:59] @les, could you send me the link to that study. That's really interesting! [13:32:05] Pheronema again [13:32:32] birds' nest sponge Pheronema carpenteri (hexactinellid) [13:32:38] taraluke leaves the room [13:33:16] @Joana, it was in Bull Yale Peabody Museum, 2012. Send me a personal chat note with your email and I will send it. [13:33:30] LAT : 42.339696 , LON : -29.149418 , DEPTH : 1055.9032 m, TEMP : 6.37607 C, SAL : 35.20917 PSU, DO : 6.99269 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [13:34:14] telmomorato leaves the room [13:36:02] emilycrum leaves the room [13:36:05] Joana: is this the Pheronema you wanted sampled? [13:36:15] I know it is fairly common [13:36:18] yes it is! [13:36:40] The while sponge, or a part of it? [13:36:45] but I'm sure we'll come across other [13:36:49] *whole sponge? [13:36:51] elisabettamenini leaves the room [13:37:07] maybe chop a piece that has the octocoral and hydroids... haha... [13:37:49] to be honest, I don't think it is easy to tear a bit off (it's very fibrous) [13:37:56] collect it all [13:38:00] whole [13:38:15] yeah, its not very big... [13:38:25] you'll probably get lots of associates as a bonus [13:38:30] LAT : 42.33969 , LON : -29.149412 , DEPTH : 1055.6339 m, TEMP : 6.39417 C, SAL : 35.2087 PSU, DO : 6.97038 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9768 FTU [13:38:35] yay! [13:38:59] Yes. I can see I will not be going to bed early tonight! [13:39:07] in/on the sponge and associated to the basal spicule swirl you see there [13:39:59] yeah @Scott, but you get lots of bonus points! [13:40:25] Can I use those in my next annual review? [13:40:29] the oreo is lurking, [13:40:49] Joana: can I dry most of the sponge and preserve only a chunk? [13:40:51] we will write very glowing statements... [13:41:34] nice!! [13:42:33] great catch, thanks! :-) [13:42:57] Did you see earlier question on preservation? [13:43:11] @Scott, yes, you can do that. Just make sure to preserve a portion that includes the inner and outer wall surfaces [13:43:30] LAT : 42.339693 , LON : -29.149427 , DEPTH : 1056.6775 m, TEMP : 6.39732 C, SAL : 35.21166 PSU, DO : 6.9799 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [13:44:26] Copy that Joana [13:48:31] LAT : 42.339712 , LON : -29.149334 , DEPTH : 1052.4771 m, TEMP : 6.45293 C, SAL : 35.21209 PSU, DO : 6.96478 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [13:48:51] that's great Scott! We don't often collect encrusting sponges and we really need samples to put names on those [13:49:05] the little bamboo belongs to another undescribed group that we have termed "bramble" type. The branches were a right angles, and often the nodes are not present. [13:50:17] what is the yellowsh colony to the left of black coral? [13:50:56] Sorry Asako - we had aleady mved when I saw the request [13:51:33] its not request. I just curious whether it was id or not [13:52:04] cidaroid urchin [13:52:43] Elatopathes abietina the yellow black coral maybe [13:53:32] LAT : 42.339678 , LON : -29.149224 , DEPTH : 1048.9982 m, TEMP : 6.48429 C, SAL : 35.21355 PSU, DO : 6.92512 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [13:56:06] @Ashton we've got your back :-D [13:58:14] telmomorato leaves the room [13:58:33] LAT : 42.339745 , LON : -29.149166 , DEPTH : 1043.011 m, TEMP : 6.51457 C, SAL : 35.2157 PSU, DO : 6.89849 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [13:58:38] taraluke leaves the room [14:02:01] hermit crab? [14:02:26] Leiopathes from Tina [14:03:03] and one under the stone I am not sure by Tina [14:03:33] LAT : 42.339734 , LON : -29.149056 , DEPTH : 1038.7823 m, TEMP : 6.54292 C, SAL : 35.21619 PSU, DO : 6.88842 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [14:06:13] @Ashton, it's the birds' nest sponge again - Pheronema carpenteri [14:08:34] LAT : 42.339792 , LON : -29.148974 , DEPTH : 1034.5443 m, TEMP : 6.53131 C, SAL : 35.21388 PSU, DO : 6.89393 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [14:09:26] Euplectellid sponge coming up [14:09:29] large sponge!! [14:09:52] can we have a look at it? [14:10:10] in middle of a ship move. can u still see it in camera [14:10:33] not anymore. it's out of frame above [14:11:27] @Ashton, ok no worries, we'll probably find more [14:12:00] there it is [14:12:29] yes, another beautiful Euplectellid [14:13:09] you--pleck--telll-id [14:13:34] LAT : 42.339716 , LON : -29.148906 , DEPTH : 1031.3271 m, TEMP : 6.52907 C, SAL : 35.21653 PSU, DO : 6.91998 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [14:13:48] no problem. :) [14:14:29] Acanella at the base? [14:14:42] but if we could zoom in on the details of the external wall it would be great [14:15:36] agree @Asako [14:16:00] cidaroid urchin with one new spine [14:16:05] Tina also agree with Acanella [14:16:28] monoplacophoran? [14:16:37] correction, three new spines [14:16:53] Limpet? [14:17:11] Looked like keyhole limpet to me [14:17:26] Tina aalso mentions brachiopod left [14:17:39] are you typing while eating @Scott? [14:18:01] Done eating! [14:18:14] Had to get lunch down fast. [14:18:35] LAT : 42.339774 , LON : -29.148898 , DEPTH : 1029.1243 m, TEMP : 6.55512 C, SAL : 35.21642 PSU, DO : 6.88296 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [14:18:38] Parantipathes by color [14:18:43] by Tina [14:20:22] In the dives done in this area, we saw fields of Acanella and Chrysogorgia together (especially in flat areas), both at similar densities, at those depths and below, down to 1200. There were some ramified Chrysogorgia that could be interesting to film from close if they appear.. [14:21:03] yes, oscula, but really unusual one [14:21:27] checking my notes/monographs [14:23:16] teeny squat lobster, but that's the best i can do [14:23:27] ok, never collected/identified. Something very similar was observed in Orphan Knoll... [14:23:35] LAT : 42.339817 , LON : -29.148783 , DEPTH : 1023.587 m, TEMP : 6.6281 C, SAL : 35.2207 PSU, DO : 6.84842 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [14:23:57] We have ID this as one of the many Asconema for the MAR, but I've never seen one with two oscula [14:24:21] @Joana Tina says hello to you! [14:25:10] CHryso? [14:25:13] this time? [14:28:36] LAT : 42.339808 , LON : -29.148606 , DEPTH : 1013.7018 m, TEMP : 6.70626 C, SAL : 35.23047 PSU, DO : 6.79951 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [14:29:54] @asako, please say hi back to Tina :-) [14:30:41] @Joana passed your message to Tina! [14:32:20] christophermah leaves the room [14:32:57] Tina thinks Apanostichopathes [14:33:36] LAT : 42.33983 , LON : -29.148596 , DEPTH : 1009.7151 m, TEMP : 6.78571 C, SAL : 35.23107 PSU, DO : 6.76002 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [14:34:08] TIna's comment: Ok this is apparently species called Antipathes viminalis [14:34:27] and I never have seen tube anemones livining like this (by Tina [14:35:09] frilly sponge again [14:36:00] Tina: more Leiopathes. [14:36:14] this one is Bathypathes pseudoalternata [14:38:26] Hertwigia falcifera [14:38:34] Can you try to zoom yn the fan-shaped organisms at the back? [14:38:38] LAT : 42.339904 , LON : -29.148575 , DEPTH : 998.438 m, TEMP : 6.86797 C, SAL : 35.24533 PSU, DO : 6.71452 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [14:38:39] *zoom in [14:38:50] the one we saw earlier was a young one [14:39:05] Reddish brown fans? [14:39:26] The ones with the crab? [14:39:29] never been dated [14:40:01] the one with the Sternostylus formosus on top, yes [14:40:02] Hertwigia is a hexact? [14:40:49] yes! Family Euplectellidae, sub-family Corbitellinae [14:42:05] @Scott collection requested from Tina [14:42:08] Tina is this a Dendrobathypathes? [14:42:12] The name for the crab was a guess form the dustance, but I might be wrong [14:42:18] @Scott: new species Dendro. [14:42:52] @Manuel: Tina says Dendropathes. [14:43:04] DENDRO_PATHES [14:43:11] So apologies for giving a name without the close up image [14:43:12] under description [14:43:35] And Parantipathes [14:43:39] LAT : 42.339897 , LON : -29.148495 , DEPTH : 998.1696 m, TEMP : 6.91206 C, SAL : 35.24901 PSU, DO : 6.70091 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [14:43:58] the polyps are stolonifera? [14:44:08] wow! beautiful [14:44:53] very old Acanella next to black coral [14:46:00] white with purple coral probably an anthothelid, or maybe Victorgogia [14:46:30] it was connected with stolon I thought [14:46:37] Thanks Tina for the ID! I've seen a lot at the area in our missions too... [14:46:45] This area looks very interesting [14:47:09] Tina: it is a mistic species - very rarely collected - and if normally collected... no collection data)))))))))) [14:47:10] Agreed! [14:47:30] *Mystic) [14:47:33] Which one are you referring to Asako? The Dendrobathypathes? [14:47:47] @Scott: yes. Tina requestd collection [14:47:59] under description [14:48:07] OK [14:48:13] nice massive demo sponge, likely Myxillid [14:48:16] new species of Dendropathes [14:48:20] *demosponge [14:48:27] We've moved on from the one we were looking at so I'll keep my eye out for others. [14:48:30] It's Dendropathes and not (my mistake) Dendrobathypathes... [14:48:38] LAT : 42.339929 , LON : -29.148354 , DEPTH : 985.8238 m, TEMP : 6.95358 C, SAL : 35.25236 PSU, DO : 6.66955 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 1.0012 FTU [14:48:45] @at Scott/ Joana place I would zoom at Leiopathes bases to measure - so they can approximate age [14:48:59] OK [14:49:00] emilycrum leaves the room [14:49:33] zoanthid really weird [14:50:03] christophermah leaves the room [14:51:43] previous @at message was from Tina! [14:52:42] antigonia [14:53:12] Just a note: we have only 1 spot left for a Largish clipped sample, otherwise we are rstricted to slurp samples. [14:53:34] We do not have a sample for this yellow gorgonian [14:53:39] LAT : 42.339951 , LON : -29.148386 , DEPTH : 983.5978 m, TEMP : 6.91783 C, SAL : 35.24781 PSU, DO : 6.67967 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9585 FTU [14:54:41] indeed more like Plexaurid? [14:55:16] So, by my notes we have 1 open box spot and I have requests for 4 different samples (from the past 2 hours). So if we could have some agreement from shore on what to sample. [14:55:17] yeah, plexaurid [14:56:30] @Scott, is clipping and then slurp a possibility for some of these upright corals? Just asking to understand what the possibilities are. [14:56:34] nice hydroids [14:56:39] there are Telestids [14:56:43] :Tina [14:56:48] Can a small piece of the top branches be cut and collected using the slurp? [14:57:12] We could try that, though it takes time. [14:58:27] Stand by for collection of yellow plexaurid [14:58:39] LAT : 42.339916 , LON : -29.148415 , DEPTH : 984.1217 m, TEMP : 6.93319 C, SAL : 35.25142 PSU, DO : 6.70757 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [14:59:08] Yes, clip and slurp is possible if we can get a small enough clipping. That works very well for some taxa, but not others. [14:59:16] stunning deep seascape! [14:59:20] Thanks @Scott [15:00:01] I'm happy to collect plexaurid! [15:00:07] The diversity in this patch is fantastic [15:00:40] ohhh! [15:00:50] I prefer this) [15:01:34] this is one we called purple plexaurid from Corner Rise. It seems to be related to paramuriceids [15:02:33] Also at about the same depth. Had been tipped over by trawlers most likely [15:02:35] Paramuriceids and Plexaurids are quite difficult. need many examin and revision. [15:02:36] So the Victorgogia you mean? [15:02:53] not Victorgorgia I think [15:03:18] agree @Asako, coenenchyme too thin for Victorgorgia [15:03:30] I don't think Victorgorgia. I'm not sure if that genus is in the Atlantic. [15:03:40] LAT : 42.339914 , LON : -29.148356 , DEPTH : 983.5737 m, TEMP : 6.94262 C, SAL : 35.25479 PSU, DO : 6.65773 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [15:04:31] don't think Victorgorgia but don't know what it is. and I'm not sure living one especially in the Atlantic [15:04:43] We will clip and small piece and attepmt to suction. [15:04:45] I think Victorgorgia was described from NE Atlantic, Josephine Bank [15:04:45] is that cidaroid in view chewing on some coral? might be good to see which one it is. [15:05:10] taraluke leaves the room [15:05:18] I'm sure that purpule polyp color will be dissappear or turn black when it is fixed. [15:06:02] same with this yellow one; will fade to brown or white [15:06:19] That is what I anticipate [15:07:22] from this view, it really looks like Acanthogorgiid [15:07:35] I mean from this distance. [15:08:01] you are right Les, Victorgorgia josephinae, by Pablo Lopez Gonzalez.. but we don't know if we have it here too [15:08:08] from 10k miles @Asako? [15:08:11] I don't think Acanthogorgid from the close view, but I agree from the distance. [15:08:35] My bad on Victorgorgia - sorry [15:08:40] LAT : 42.339911 , LON : -29.148377 , DEPTH : 982.7303 m, TEMP : 6.93129 C, SAL : 35.25263 PSU, DO : 6.67705 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9463 FTU [15:08:42] @Les no, I said same meaning as Scott! [15:08:54] hahaha.... I know.... [15:10:30] if I had a sence of detect Plexaurid/Acanthogorgiid from 10 k miles, I was not a human [15:11:27] Can we get a Zoom on the cidaroid when the operation has completed? My thanks [15:11:57] wow, amazing! [15:12:04] wow, that was nicely done indeed [15:12:06] Great job! [15:12:13] good collection! thank you pilot!!!! [15:12:31] Great collection, but you see how long it takes for that clip/suck operation, so just be aware of trade-offs in future collection requests. [15:12:57] Yes, we will do Scott. Many thanks! [15:13:40] LAT : 42.339906 , LON : -29.148404 , DEPTH : 982.6583 m, TEMP : 6.95019 C, SAL : 35.24892 PSU, DO : 6.65271 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9524 FTU [15:13:50] but @Asako you would be in high demand [15:14:35] Zoom on the cidaroid? [15:14:45] @Les then I will be fixed on drone and frew away somowhere danger!! haha [15:15:11] I think it sets a good example, to sample so precisely without trashing the organism/environment. This is something I really admire in the OE program. A big contrast from the early days of Alvin exploration. [15:15:22] Any of the feeding urchins is okay [15:15:39] TIna: Leiopathes on the back [15:17:43] Zoom in the probably Paragorgia and a Tylopathes (maybe) [15:17:49] Scott, can you ask for the lasers back on [15:18:41] LAT : 42.339976 , LON : -29.148442 , DEPTH : 987.1477 m, TEMP : 6.99115 C, SAL : 35.2522 PSU, DO : 6.64604 mg/l, TURBIDITY : 0.9646 FTU [15:18:49] thank you [15:19:03] @Cindy, I agree, but also OE has under-done the sampling. Too many new things not sampled due to various limitations, and I don't see much prospect of people returning to these places to do more sampling. [15:19:22] Tina: can we zoom at that dark fan? [15:19:28] Is this back coral behind the Leiopathes [15:19:50] too dark. give us light [15:20:01] love the patrolling oreo [15:20:19] Tylopathes [15:20:22] We have seen many, very large ones [15:20:23] undescribed [15:20:27] by Tina [15:20:40] the same we have in mitohondrial paper [15:20:45] (Tina) [15:21:43] Leiopathes (Tina) [15:21:59]