[03:12:05] kaseycantwell leaves the room [11:54:08] EX1806 DIVE04 Test message [11:54:28] chat-admin leaves the room [12:16:22] EX1806_DIVE04 ROV Launch [12:24:26] EX1806_DIVE04 ROV on Surface [12:24:30] EX1806_DIVE04 ROV Descending [12:38:28] Morning all - we are on station, weather looks good, and we are enroute to the seafloor! [12:41:54] bring on those jellies! [12:47:58] morning Dhugal! [13:01:32] kaseycantwell leaves the room [13:01:46] taraluke leaves the room [13:01:56] test [13:02:07] me too [13:04:10] working fine [13:07:38] taraluke leaves the room [13:08:10] Good morning all. [13:08:34] I'm not on the telecon, but I'm listening [13:09:13] Kate Rose, not on the call but annotating geology on the video for the corals program [13:14:14] lost video briefly. back now. [13:17:43] cherylmorrison leaves the room [13:21:53] dhugallindsay leaves the room [13:23:32] thanks Kate! [13:23:55] are you guys seeing the CTD- very odd [13:27:35] very [13:28:26] EX1806_DIVE04 ROV on Bottom [13:29:15] Hello all [13:29:49] Hello Asako. [13:29:58] Hi Tara [13:30:20] kaseycantwell leaves the room [13:30:50] Good morning and Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads out there! Looking forward to todays dive! [13:32:00] Good morning! [13:37:07] katerose leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [13:37:15] Ideas of what this yellow organism is? [13:38:17] Stichpathes black coral [13:38:31] This color is not uncommon [13:46:01] I see Stauropathes. There is also Bathypathes [13:46:14] This one is Bathypathes [13:46:24] Bathypathes is on the ASPIRE connectivity list. [13:46:37] Stauropathes is not, in case that factors into collection. [13:46:42] decsison [13:47:05] Polychaete worm on this Bathypathes - a typical association [13:47:33] Stauropathes on right, Bathyp[athes left [13:47:54] Another Bathypathes behind thos Stauropathes [13:49:11] Good eye Cheryl - a stoloniferan, possibly Cornulariidae [13:49:28] We've made lots of collections of both of these from New England Seamounts, but I'm not familiar with collectionds from down here. [13:49:46] Should we collect one of each? [13:50:05] We were not permitted to collect black corals on our Bahamas Escarpment dives as we lacked CITES permits [13:50:57] This is a good opportunity! [13:51:11] I don't know enough about collection history of these, so I'm neutral. Feel free to collect if there is a request. [13:52:18] if you ask me, I basically agree with coral collection :) [13:52:42] I agree with what Peter just said [13:53:35] Stauropathes less common in sightings than Stauropathes [13:53:48] I mean "than Bathypathes" [13:54:05] you confused me Scott! [13:54:18] Sorry! [13:54:28] Too early for me to be typing fast [13:54:34] Haven't had my coffee yet. [13:55:29] you maybe enjoying your father's day? too early to have wine? [13:56:25] Be haha [13:57:42] Note: the Bathypathes often have a scale worm associate tucked in to the polyps on the main axis, so check that out. The Bathypathes we imaged before we moved to these two colonies had one of those scale worms. [14:01:54] If no one else is making a notation of the collection in SeaScribe, please type the specimen numbers here and I will add them. [14:03:31] we collected both? my video has a lot of delay today. [14:03:47] For the Bathypathes on the right, there is definitely a polychate, so try clipping below it. [14:04:01] Still collecting Asako. [14:04:15] thank you Scott. [14:07:35] Eel swimming away was not a Conger eel. Telltale end of caudal held above the horizontal axis of the body when swimming = Synaphobranchus. Conger per se unlikely at this depth although other congrid genera do occur below 1000m [14:08:34] lesliesautter leaves the room [14:08:55] From the exaggerated body flexure displayed by that Synapho, perhaps there is substantial bottom current here? [14:14:20] Parantipathes [14:14:39] The squat lobster are characterictic associates of this genus [14:15:40] lesliesautter leaves the room [14:16:27] Mucus net... not sure what created it. [14:16:30] dhugallindsay leaves the room [14:16:37] Little plate sponges next to amphipoid [14:17:13] Brittle star arms in hole [14:17:47] Cheryl or Leslie: f no one else is making a notation of the collection in SeaScribe, please type the specimen numbers here and I will add them. I created a placeholder. [14:18:26] Will do. Consulting the sampling lead to make sure we are correct. [14:19:34] LarvaceN [14:19:47] LARVACEAN [14:20:08] Sorry about all caps! Can't keep track of my fingers this morning! [14:20:27] It too early to be yelling scott ;) [14:20:52] taraluke leaves the room [14:21:05] haha [14:21:52] Hi Scott, this is Stephanie [14:22:09] If this thicker-looking orange Stichopathes is the same as the one we have collected further north, then out genetic data suggest it is not a Stichopathes at all, at least they are not on the same genetic lineage/clade. [14:22:20] The Stauropathes is D2_DIVE04_SPEC01BIO [14:22:37] The SECOND Bathypathes is D2_DIVE04_SPEC02BIO [14:22:51] Thanks Cheryl [14:24:47] We also took 3 niskin samples at that site, SPEC03, 04, and 05. the sample logger isn't letting us enter them thus far [14:31:32] lesliesautter leaves the room [14:31:53] I'm not sure if you've already been looking at sponges today, but we just passed a couple of white glass sponges I hadn't seen before. Please get a close-up if you see them again. [14:33:22] michaelvecchione leaves the room [14:34:53] will do. sorry you have the lag in time. [14:35:53] I didn't hear Cheryl - is that Lophelia? [14:37:38] Sponges? [14:37:54] Oh! [14:38:07] Sorry. This is not the sponge I was referring to [14:38:16] The sponges I saw were bright white and taller. [14:38:31] Looks like a bamboo coral [14:38:47] from a distance, anyway [14:38:56] adriennecopeland leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [14:39:35] Yup - dead bamboo coral with plenty of overgrowth [14:39:45] Neolithoides? [14:41:09] Bad spelling: Neolithodes [14:41:21] coral may have been a Keratoisis [14:43:09] Looks like a dead Metallogorgia as well... [14:43:21] Also with an anemone [14:43:47] is there a brittle star at the top? [14:44:13] Looks like the brittle star is also gone... so a long dead one? [14:44:22] Good signs of things to come [14:44:47] would be nice to get a record of Metallogorgia from here [14:45:02] sorry, missed begining of the dive [14:45:10] Branched sponge? [14:45:23] black is Parantipathes [14:45:29] Nope - I was fooled [14:45:39] primnoid [14:45:43] Thouareella primnoid [14:45:57] Thouarella [14:46:02] Hi Tina! [14:46:13] one "e" [14:46:23] agree with Scott, black coral is right [14:46:32] Thouarella agree [14:46:45] and cup coral at base [14:46:53] my messages must be going the long way round as there is about a 10 second delay before they show up [14:46:53] lesliesautter leaves the room [14:47:04] Collection of Thourella? [14:47:13] Maybe a Heteropathes behind it [14:47:18] can we look at blak coral, bushy one right [14:47:24] What is at base of THouarella? [14:47:28] same with images.... I see your comments and then I see what you are talking about [14:47:35] I cannot see it properly [14:47:53] yes, looks like Heteropathes, perhaps americana [14:48:02] Not sure what was at the base? [14:48:11] I think there was a gastropod under the THouarella [14:48:28] Cairns described T. grasshoffi from W Atlantic but colony was not this large or robust [14:48:42] and right and left are apparently both Stauropathes and I have heard it was collected [14:48:54] Collection of part of Thopurella? [14:48:58] Tina: this looks like a place you could retire. [14:49:07] We collected it in Oceanographer canyon [14:49:21] Parantipathes, perhaps hirondelle. but not 100% sure [14:49:32] @Tina: we collected a Stauropathes and a Bathypathes earlier today. [14:49:38] I think it would be good to grab a piece. [14:49:44] of the Thouarella [14:49:47] I have another species under description [14:50:00] @scott, yes, asako whatupped me) [14:50:14] Sure, snip a piece of THopouarella [14:50:23] from where @Tina [14:50:35] may be interesting to get Heteropathes [14:50:47] if it is common [14:51:05] That is the first heteropathes Tina [14:51:15] @Les, Meteor seamount and Hiere [14:51:23] I did respond Cheryl: I said collect a piece of Thouarella [14:51:35] It would be not bet to get Heteropathes [14:51:47] not bad [14:51:50] I vote Thouarella! [14:52:02] Would be good in fact [14:52:14] I vote both [14:52:22] Great- thanks. Setting up for collection [14:52:32] I am OK for Thouarella, we already collected two black corals this dive [14:52:33] dhugallindsay leaves the room [14:52:40] Verification- heteropathes is the tall one on right? [14:52:53] looks like three Heteropathes colonies here [14:53:00] @Les, great! if it is possible, I also vote both :) [14:53:13] Heteropathes is TINY at the back of Thouarrella [14:53:40] Oh good- thanks Tina. So many species here! [14:53:54] @Les, I can see three Stauropathes... but only one Heteropathes [14:57:28] nope, we had one dead bamboo [14:58:42] I am leaving you all for a while. See you later. Looks like it could be a good dive for sessile communities. [14:58:50] @Tina, my bad black coral taxonomy [14:59:40] scottfrance leaves the room [15:00:10] Bathypathes and Corallium [15:00:44] Corallidae at least with a worm run along the stalk [15:01:28] and there is one more species of black corals just left to Stauropathes [15:01:38] has to be Aphanipathidae [15:01:55] could the light pink one be an anthothela? [15:02:43] Les, no... I do not think so, just bad projection [15:03:12] also we have Stichopathes [15:03:46] apparently two species of stichopathes [15:05:16] this coral cluster is very similar to what we saw on the western end of the New England seamount chain. [15:05:31] it is coral dive! [15:05:44] has lophelia, desmophyllum and some gorgos [15:06:14] has been here a long time also judging by the manganese coat on the dead corals [15:06:48] and a little Hertwigia? [15:07:25] @les, this thing, that looks partly like coral, partly like nudibranch... is it possible to be bivalve? [15:08:04] not sure I know what you were looking at @Tina [15:08:31] lesliesautter leaves the room [15:10:49] went back and looked.... and I have no idea what it was! [15:11:54] very unusual behavior... too bad Mike isn't logged in [15:13:29] Enallopsammia? very nice [15:13:35] Ideas on coral [15:14:02] zooanthid [15:14:08] Some parazoanthids are yellow. [15:14:16] the yellow one... also a member of the group as I noted before [15:14:33] some zoanthids are yellow but this has a continuous yellow framework [15:14:41] I think it Enallopsammia [15:14:50] Hi all, It seems Enallopsammia [15:14:53] Oh cool [15:15:17] That's what I thought too. rostrata [15:15:30] agree @Cheryl [15:15:50] Gonostomatid? Cyclothone? [15:16:09] Bathypathes, Stichopathes, several Stauropathes [15:16:22] Yeah Bobtail [15:17:50] siphonophore [15:18:03] but very small [15:18:03] adriennecopeland leaves the room [15:18:41] Tina - this is a great dive for you! [15:19:46] robertcarney leaves the room [15:20:01] @kasey, yes) it is lovely dive [15:20:20] Anthomastus [15:20:32] can we zoom anthomastus? [15:21:54] shrimp with huge pleopods [15:21:57] irissampaio leaves the room [15:23:03] Pseudoanthomastus [15:23:12] shrimp is Plesiopenaeus or maybe now it is Aristeopenaeus, I can never remember [15:23:23] this is Tina's dive indeed! :) [15:25:21] what's that white branching thing next to the purple sponge [15:25:35] this may be Bryozoan above the blue sponge [15:25:51] irissampaio leaves the room [15:27:13] louispenrod leaves the room [15:27:55] Chaunax methinks [15:28:20] I like orange eyes [15:28:49] I always thought these guys looked like they were made of plastic [15:29:01] We called them Benny fish after Benny Rohr on Oregon 2. He was a little fat. LOL [15:29:14] haha [15:29:21] it looks like a tiny dog at dogshow [15:29:51] lesliesautter leaves the room [15:29:52] they can swim, albeit somewhat awkwardly and not too fast [15:31:41] Chaunax coloratus. There are several species in this genus. When this species is disturbed and bugs out, the backward facing circular opercular openings show black and appear like eyespots - suggesting the head of a very large fish. The short lure within a cavity on the head in this species may not be a visual lure but a chemical lure. The visual lures are more typically elongate and dangled or twitched in front of the mouth. The chemical version is held motionless within the head pit [15:31:46] last was good) [15:32:21] sophie and trey here woop woop [15:33:30] thanks @Ken! [15:35:46] Regarding the yellows and blues that might seem functionless at 1000 m +, they may actually be functional. At mid-latitudes, given the density of photons hitting the surface of the ocean, and the extinction coefficient of solar illumination with deph in clear ocean water, enough photons survive to at least 1200 m to be sensed by the hypersensitive retinae of many deep-sea fishes. Only a few photons per sec are needed to be sensed. Additionally, from the work of Edith Widder, many organisms at depth are fluorescent - so visible color may be related to that capability [15:38:06] why we have such terrasses? they are real sealevel? [15:39:04] Chaunax species are very good at changing color. In the Gulf, C. sutkussi, can be either solid red, red with whitish spots, red or pink with lots of yellow spots, or gray with a reticulated color pattern. The red C. coloratus seen on this dive is sometimes translucent whitish with a blue abdomen. [15:39:49] Parantipathes [15:41:57] looks like piece of coral, covered by crust [15:42:06] this substrate is a lot like the sunken carbonate blocks we saw at Bahamas, similar depth [15:42:06] irissampaio leaves the room [15:42:33] Black coral is sitting at rock sample that makes it even more perfect [15:42:46] Gastropod to left of rock [15:43:26] I think this is part of a large ancient platform, perhaps Miocene or so in age, not sure though [15:45:20] corals! [15:47:18] can we zoom at whitish coral [15:47:48] Looks lie an Enallopsammia [15:48:08] *like! [15:49:07] another Heteroapathes [15:49:24] can we zoom left [15:49:36] out of screen now [15:49:42] Sending an email to Cheryl with attached image showing Chaunax false eyes when swimming away - from OE 1708 in Pacific, a Chaunax very close to C. coloratus [15:51:28] Thank you Ken! [15:51:39] can we zoom at pink Parantipathes [15:52:53] Some Anthothela-;like coral [15:53:33] Anthothela, not Paramuricea: [15:53:43] agree for Paramuricid [15:53:57] There was also purple Clavularia overgrowing the skeleton [15:54:03] Anthothela was purplish one [15:54:26] Agree Paramuricea - surprised not to see an asteroschematid on it [15:54:38] Don't sample this one [15:54:42] irissampaio leaves the room [15:54:56] For connectivity we are looking for Paramuricea with Asteroschema [15:55:05] and this doesn't have Asteroschema [15:55:45] can we zoom at Parantipathes-like branching [15:55:53] right [15:56:13] Note: you could opt to sample it for other reasons if desired, but not for the connectivity sampling is my point. [15:56:42] Scott, we really need that parantipathes to look [15:56:59] Okay Scott. May have been a good sample for others, but no one shouting about it. [15:57:12] Do you see more paraanthipathes Tina? [15:57:19] Not enough people today to shout! [15:57:23] More on Chaunax. It is good to be red at depth, red absorbs the sparse blue wavelength photos surviving from the surface and also the primarily blue wavelength of bioluminescence of biological light at depth. But also good to have startle eyespots, even when you look black - because some predators with yellow eye lenses (like Bathysaurus) can defeat red camo (and ventral photophore ambient light matching) to reveal prey trying to hide in the near solar blackness of inner space [15:57:31] Can crustacean people identify these squats? Munida, Munidopsis? [15:57:38] it was only one, we passed it three times already [15:57:49] it was branched [15:57:53] Father's day wrapping paper... [15:58:01] I've seen most Munida [15:58:17] @Cheryl thanks [15:59:38] that fish looked like it was having trouble waking up! [15:59:51] Is that the same as Royal Red shrimp? I eat them. [15:59:59] Stauropathes [16:00:10] Stichopathes [16:00:23] Enallopsamia [16:00:32] I don't think so @Tom.... but royal reds are penaeids, I think [16:00:47] @Les Thanks [16:01:22] Synaphobranchus affinis. S kaupii is very similar and co-occurs in same rea and depth, but is thicker bodied. Les - when hit by the ROV lights, synaphos often gape, run into objects, etc. Probably a reaction to having very dark-adapted retina suddenly blasted with intense ROV light [16:02:14] @Ken, yeah not surprised, although we don't often see that reaction. The lights must be hard on their eyes [16:02:27] Yup - Chrsogorgia [16:02:49] zoanthid [16:03:02] The gape is usually followed by a head shake - and you saw that just now [16:03:08] ex-bamboo [16:03:16] Good call Cheryl - zoanthids [16:03:35] all over the ?keratoisis [16:03:53] I'm guessing on the branching pattern [16:04:29] where are the rest of the bamboos? [16:05:19] the hard corals are much like those of the western end of the New England seamounts, but the gorgos not so much [16:05:38] Leiopathes [16:06:10] Bathypathes [16:06:57] Stauropathes [16:07:16] can we zoom at pink& [16:07:25] I missed the Leiopathes [16:07:39] my guees is that left is a different genus [16:07:49] Oh - I see in the back [16:08:49] I missed perhaps Trissopathes twice that is not reported from here [16:09:41] primnoid [16:09:46] Primnoidae Candidella [16:09:51] perhaps candidella [16:10:02] This is the species that has polychate worm tunnels on it [16:10:10] yeah, Candidella [16:10:25] and there are worm tunnels [16:10:43] at least one on the left [16:10:55] @les, agree for wormruns [16:11:01] Enallopsamia in the bkgd [16:11:14] Candidella maybe imbricata [16:11:24] Telestidae [16:11:36] is this yellow sponge is well known? [16:11:49] @Les: we could be on the NES! This looks so similar [16:11:57] yeah, we see it everywhere on the seamounts in NW Atlantic [16:12:11] Agree @Scott, I made that comment while you were away [16:12:21] big one looks like not Leiopathes for me [16:12:31] We saw this yellow sponge a lot on the New England Seamounts, but I'm not sure it has ever been collected. Does anyone know? [16:12:41] sorry - Solenosmilia? [16:12:50] the yellow sponge we have been calling Hertwigia [16:12:55] another primnoid [16:13:00] We did some slurps of it for Shank [16:13:13] thank you Les and Scott! [16:13:22] It is very difficult to get without falling apart [16:13:35] beautiful Candidella specimen [16:13:47] same brittle star too @Scott [16:14:41] It would be nice to have a piece of the yellow sponge so that sclerites can be checked [16:14:54] I want zoon at darck black coral [16:14:58] sorry, spicules! [16:15:10] zoom [16:15:17] Love the way it is growing intertwined with the coral [16:15:17] irissampaio leaves the room [16:15:43] maybe the coral doesn't like that so much [16:16:12] please [16:16:28] no way [16:17:16] @Scott, what is missing from this "grouping" is the little bramble bamboo [16:17:23] Has anyone seen mysids or amphipods? Just that shrimp coral associate here. [16:17:35] @Les: for sure. [16:18:30] Very interesting how concentrated that cluster was at the edge of the rock feature. Very telling. [16:19:27] Ok, @scott, just for you this big colony is apparently NOT Leiopathes - but we did not zoom and dark-red colony left of all Stauropathes I have no idea what [16:19:40] bamboo coral behind this stichopathes [16:21:52] erikcordes leaves the room [16:22:42] For the coral taxonomists, what do these look like when you get them to surface. Can you still see extruded polyps. They look so delicate. What are the types stored in? [16:23:16] @Tom: it varies by coral type... [16:23:17] lesliesautter leaves the room [16:23:38] Some of the corals don't have enough coenenchyme tissue for the polyps to retract into... [16:23:53] ...for example, the chrsyogorgiids and most isidids... [16:24:06] @ thanks Scott. [16:24:18] ...but others, like the Plexaurids, can fullt retract [16:24:24] And then there are some in between! [16:24:38] And some that can retract, only some polyps are retracted and other are partially out. [16:27:25] hydroids [16:28:26] scaleworm if polynoid had long parapodial seta. [16:28:55] I think these frilly edged glass sponges may be in the family Farreidae [16:29:32] Black coral branched Parantipathes? [16:29:45] Or a Taxipathes? Tina? [16:29:58] Parantipathes or Sibopathes [16:30:12] Oh yeah - Sibopathes, not Taxipathes. Thanks. [16:30:16] Taxipathes is also possible [16:30:31] @Tina: lol! [16:30:46] I have seen only couple of subspecimens and never full colony [16:30:53] irissampaio leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:31:02] asakomatsumoto leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:31:17] large fan [16:31:31] my guess is that it may be Sibopathes macrospina that is not Sibopatehs [16:31:54] Mysid symbiont [16:32:10] Or just hanging out there. [16:34:06] The mysid is swimming to right. [16:35:02] irissampaio leaves the room [16:35:02] well, we've seen that before! too beautiful! [16:38:35] Awesome. [16:39:25] So, as a point of reference, to our south on the Bahamas Escarpment, we collected samples from these candelabra isidids at 1255 to 1468 m, so right in the depth range we are today. [16:41:01] Farreidae glass sponge [16:41:39] Stichopathes [16:42:28] Yellow sponge was growing as bracket fungi. [16:45:18] Parantipathes [16:45:44] Stichopathes below [16:47:18] What a great wall of coral. [16:47:47] Awesome spot. [16:47:58] I did not see any associates on that Parantipathes [16:48:07] Maybe the current hits these cliffs and the current directs upward into the bracket sponge. [16:48:12] Great edge to the ledge [16:48:30] we saw this fish on Rehoboth with the Acanthogorgia armata.... Ken will have to supply the name [16:48:45] Is it a codling...? [16:48:47] mattdornback leaves the room [16:48:59] Anthomastus [16:50:01] can we zoom at dark red coral below bamboo to left [16:50:10] Nice Stichopathes above the Parantipathes - think Tina saw this one [16:50:19] will request [16:51:33] just off screen [16:52:27] Not seeing much dead portions of coral colonies or coral branches. Has it been this way the entire dive? [16:52:48] @Scott, I think we might need to think of this as a western boundary undercurrent community. Stretches maybe from Newfoundland to Bahamas [16:53:01] This is the first distinct "cliff" of the day @Tim [16:53:11] Fully dead coloniy here [16:53:27] These are more live than what we saw at lower parts of the scarp [16:53:39] @Les: but I think it skips some of the midAtlantic canyons... Will be very interesting to see communities in the dives in the coming 2 weeks. [16:53:49] Okay. Thank you. Noting not seeing much in the way of coral assocaites. [16:53:53] B clade bamboo in the back [16:54:08] Bathypathes or Telopathes, [16:54:18] Umbellapathes? [16:54:29] B clade is the squiggly whip [16:54:47] and white has to be Alternatipathes [16:55:13] @Tina - sorry, we had to keep moving. [16:55:27] timothyshank leaves the room [16:55:50] @Scott, is that due to lack of appropriate substrate? [16:56:50] @Les: good question! I was wondering if it had something to do with current flow. At one point didn't we think there was an offshore southtward flow that then curled north when it hit the Bahamas Escarpment... [16:57:25] left perhaps leiopathes [16:57:55] But there seemed to be evidence in the northern canyons of the current going in and out of the canyon, at least in the lower part. Interesting. [16:58:09] Another big bamboo coral [16:58:21] the biggest yet? [16:58:34] Strange sea anemone that we passed [16:58:46] I don't think this is Keratoisis [16:58:58] A zoom would be helpful [16:59:11] basket star on bamboo- yes can we zoom? 1247m [16:59:37] It was apparently radicipes [16:59:49] polyp density on that bamboo was too much for Keratoisis. [17:00:03] So maybe something we saw further north, but maybe not [17:00:37] ophiuroid on bamboo [17:00:59] without zoom can't tell who is who [17:01:14] Yes, the bamboo on the left has the oph [17:01:55] I would guess J clade or one of the minor clades for this one [17:02:34] Missed what you said @Scott [17:02:49] I agree: J clade [17:02:58] This one has interesting colored polyps [17:03:08] I was pointing out the abherrent branching in there... [17:03:19] saw few barnacles near the top of one of the branches - glyptolasma like [17:03:30] Eevidence that there was damage and then odd regrowth following it. [17:03:35] good point [17:03:39] That pattern is becoming more and more common [17:03:48] Agree @ Scott. Great Cheryl for commenting on the Uroptychus on Paratipathes- one of my favorites. [17:04:10] looks like ophiocanthid oph [17:04:24] maybe some regrowth on the arm(s) [17:04:42] suggest regrowth..... [17:04:50] tentacles have been pulled into top of polyp [17:05:12] but looks like all of the arms have that color and size difference have been impacted [17:05:27] lots of regeneration in the b star [17:05:39]