[01:21:09] lesliesautter leaves the room [11:34:57] iscwatch leaves the room [11:35:31] kaseycantwell leaves the room [11:50:52] robertcarney leaves the room [11:57:37] Good morning everyone- we are on station and preparing for launch. We are monitor a nearby squall, but otherwise we expect an on time launch. We will likely be on the seafloor around 09:30 EDT. Our pre-dive briefing will take place at 09:00 EDT. Expedition Teleconference Line: 1-866-617-5860, passcode: 1233796# Low latency high resolution video feed (for contributing scientists only): https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/livestreams/full-res.html 07:24:17. Link to ROV dive in SeaScribe (these will be adjusted day to day): https://divelog.oceannetworks.ca/Dive?diveId=1213 [12:31:31] kaseycantwell leaves the room [12:36:18] Hi All - the squall is going to delay us a bit, but we are monitoring the situation and are now 15 mins to deployment [12:38:01] hey Kasey. Did the new dive schedule kmz get sent to the UPLOAD folder? I just took a look and don't see it...I was having issues seeing and retrieving things in the 1805 upload folder, so it could be me [12:50:28] sandrabrooke leaves the room [12:52:00] fernandoaragon leaves the room [12:55:08] good morning! [12:55:37] lesliesautter leaves the room [13:00:10] Good morning Leslie [13:02:30] Good Morning all- we are still waiting for ideal conditions related to launch/recovery. From the time we put the vehicle in the water it will be about an hour to descent to the seafloor. We are going to delay our pre-dive brief at least until we are in the water so we can provide you with the most updated information. [13:03:26] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV Launch [13:03:27] @ Jason - the files seem to have not transfered to shore last night. Our team is looking into it . I can email you a copy in the interim? [13:04:05] D2 is going in! [13:04:26] sounds good kasey [13:06:04] kaseycantwell leaves the room [13:10:39] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV on Surface [13:11:54] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV Descending [13:17:03] Good morning! [13:37:33] scottfrance leaves the room [13:39:43] kaseycantwell leaves the room [13:42:38] Good morning everyone! [13:45:39] yeah!! [13:45:45] i mean, hi everybody [13:46:53] Hi Erik! [13:47:15] Good morning Erik! Thanks for joining us! [13:48:13] emilycrum leaves the room [13:55:05] adriennecopeland leaves the room [13:57:41] Good morning, Charleston folks (Zach, Trey, Peter, Rachel, Ren). Did I miss anyone? [13:58:21] Nolan too! And good morning everyone else, of course. :) [13:58:43] @Leslie Thank you! I'm at MUSC with George Hanna too! [13:58:51] @Tina Hi Tina! [14:01:53] Hi Nolan, hi everybody [14:05:56] Good morning, everyone! [14:06:19] Morning all! [14:07:10] @Megan Morning! [14:11:13] @Asako Hi Tina! [14:11:15] Hello all [14:11:27] Hi Nolan! [14:11:31] @Asako I meant "Hi Asako!" [14:11:39] Hi Asako! [14:12:27] Hi Tara! @Nolan I can see! [14:12:33] Hi Nolan, how's it going? [14:14:02] @Megan Pretty good! How are you adjusting to NC? [14:14:17] @Leslie Did you all understand the Nav request? We just need the navigator to call out 100 m every time we reach a linear bottom distance of 100 m. They did it during the last expedition and it didn't seem like they minded. [14:14:31] I'm really looking forward to this expedition! [14:14:33] kaseycantwell leaves the room [14:15:14] @Nolan Awesome, I'm really enjoying it so far! Excited to be taking part in this expedition in my new position at the NCSM [14:16:20] @Megan Fantastic! [14:16:50] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV on Bottom [14:18:41] May have been a crinoid in foreground [14:19:01] But not sure what it would be attached to... [14:21:48] quite soft [14:23:53] scottfrance leaves the room [14:24:09] urchin) [14:24:32] Can we get the quad screen on video feed 3, please? [14:27:03] asakomatsumoto leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [14:27:15] Aerosoma [14:28:07] Alexander Mironov's determination [14:28:40] with commensal polychaete [14:28:54] zachproux leaves the room [14:29:02] lovely scaleworm [14:29:13] Areosoma [14:29:31] sorry for missprint [14:31:28] these look like beaked whale feeding pits [14:31:47] We saw these on several New England seamounts as well [14:32:20] I agree. Also saw them often in the GoMex. [14:33:00] Peter Auster and I wrote a paper about these marks a few years ago [14:33:52] I know. An interesting thing is that 1700 m is close to the max recorded depth for beaked whales. [14:34:26] just a quick note that camera 3 is still your highlight video [14:34:36] and we thought they might be chasing squid... and thoughts about that @Mike? [14:34:41] The emandering trails could be burrowing heart urchins [14:34:47] *meandering [14:34:50] @Les and @Michael A friend of mine is asking, how do we tell the difference between beaked whale feeding pits and tilefish nests? [14:35:08] iscwatch leaves the room [14:35:13] @Nolan: only one has tilefish eggs... ;-) [14:35:20] Hi Les. Yes. I think they are chasing squids that hang out near bottom. e.g., mastigoteuthids. [14:35:24] tilefish make a burrow into the ground and they sit in it head first [14:35:27] @Scott Ha! Yes! [14:35:55] thanks @Mike [14:36:53] Sea pen [14:37:10] we all interesting in [14:37:14] tilefish burrows are rounded holes, not scooped out gouges like these [14:37:57] also what characterizes these gouges is the "splatter" of sediment at one end of the gouge. [14:38:04] bad projection [14:38:12] Pennat [14:38:16] ula my guess [14:38:22] Looks like polyps arise directly from rachis and not on leaves... [14:38:58] ha [14:39:01] @Les Thank you! [14:39:12] may be another Anthoptilym [14:39:21] I think Anthoptilum [14:39:54] will tell name, not-crooked Anthoptilum [14:42:15] it is first brittlestar I ever have seen swimming, have to be in highlights [14:42:41] Given the right impetus, I guess anything will swim to escape! [14:43:15] its a bilateral wannabe [14:43:48] The tripodfish is either Bathypterois phenax or B. quadrifilis. It would be necessary to zoom in on the fish while sitting on the sediment to determine ID. Configuration of branching of elongate pectoral fin rays is diagonistic [14:44:03] Yup! Good call Leslie. [14:44:22] if Anthoptilum it has to be A.grandiflorum [14:45:42] @Tina: why not Anthoptilum n.sp." ;-) [14:45:59] because it looks like) [14:46:18] Acanella? [14:46:34] Acanella bamboo coral [14:46:37] bamboo [14:46:48] with squatlobster [14:46:56] what is the distance between the two laser dots? [14:46:58] This species can root in sediment [14:47:05] 10 cm [14:47:07] The base of the skeleton forms a root. [14:47:53] Check out my blog from last expedition: https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1803/logs/may3/welcome.html [14:48:27] The most common species in this area is Acanella arbuscula, but can't tell that from this video image. [14:49:14] something might be living in there [14:49:18] I think that was shrimp in the coral and it was probably Bathypalaemonella serratipalma [14:50:47] michaelvecchione leaves the room [14:50:48] Another heart urchin meandering trace [14:52:03] Thanks for the interlaser dot distance Tina [14:52:19] I would say that shrimp is not specific to Acanella, but is often found associated with Acanella (and some other octocorals) [14:52:52] These traces tell us there is lots to eat in these sediments. [14:53:16] I'm dropping off for half hour or so. [14:54:17] See you soon Scott! [14:54:20] I am here, but not completely [14:54:27] scottfrance leaves the room [14:54:47] upasanaganguly leaves the room [14:54:56] Hydroid [14:55:02] adriennecopeland leaves the room [14:55:19] looks like hydroid for me [14:55:56] michaelvecchione leaves the room [14:56:09] agree @Tina [14:56:16] agree @Tina [14:57:48] The Ophidiidae fish species Barathrites sp. is a commensal, found sheltering among the spines beneath the underside of the pancake urchins Hygrosoma petersi and Phorosoma placenta from the U.S. East Coast at depths comparable to today’s dive. Might be worth taking a closer look at those large pancake urchins. [14:58:11] kaseycantwell leaves the room [14:58:36] thanks @Ken, we saw that on the New England seamounts [14:58:54] Acanella with Bathypalaemonella [15:00:42] Araeosoma [15:00:51] right spelling finally) [15:04:58] not cerianthid [15:05:10] normal sea anemone [15:05:43] can sit on mud or at the small stone [15:06:43] adriennecopeland leaves the room [15:07:22] brisingid [15:08:08] must be reproductive [15:08:24] gonads in the arms as in some b stars [15:08:29] The small skate is probably Rajella bathyphila. But for ID on any skates encountered, it would be necessary to zoom in on the center of the back (disk) to observe pattern of thorns, and to zoom in on the spines along the tail - number, number of rows, and relative size is important [15:10:24] upasanaganguly leaves the room [15:12:18] sponge [15:12:32] perheps dead [15:14:03] excellent) [15:14:06] I think demosponge [15:14:20] Or dead hexactinellid [15:14:24] the best pronounciation I had ever) [15:14:29] zachproux leaves the room [15:14:56] Geologists always hope for rocks. [15:15:05] upasanaganguly leaves the room [15:15:24] A nice rock specimen with plenty of bio associates would be lovely for everyone! [15:15:50] hey! I also hope for rocks! more rocks- more corals. bolders are better than rocks, solid walls are even better [15:16:44] Rocks with critters! They are the best, for sure! [15:16:46] agree! I also hope for rocks and rocks! [15:17:24] Indeed! As for these corals so much for the need for "hard substrate" attachment. [15:17:31] every Acanella has its shrimp.... in this case its an immature one [15:21:26] adriennecopeland leaves the room [15:22:40] perhaps Ophiomusium lymani - worth zooming in on one to facilitate ID. [15:23:17] the only big a common for this depth I know the name is Ophiomusium [15:23:30] ervangarrison leaves the room [15:26:45] BCD? [15:27:55] jillbourque leaves the room [15:28:50] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [15:34:18] Thanks! [15:35:38] I have to go for about a half an hour or so. See you when I get back. [15:36:39] Sea Pen! [15:36:48] @Tara Thank you. [15:36:49] Umbellula [15:37:02] Why are the fishes being passed by at a distance. Worth pausing a few seconds to get good imagery for ID. We have also passed by a sorcerer's eel and another eel without [15:37:30] I will be in and out of the lab also [15:38:13] if there is time, it would be good to get some zooms on the fishes on the dives. Appreciate it! doing great out there! [15:38:28] thanks, Ken. Will do. [15:39:44] thanks folks! [15:39:52] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [15:40:23] Sure! [15:42:31] it has a notch by the caudal fin [15:42:56] great zoom! [15:43:21] i think that notch is identifying characteristic by Ken will know for sure [15:43:30] Bathypterois quadrifilis [15:43:31] let us know what part of a fish you might want the zoom for ID purposes. We'll try! [15:44:07] seapen [15:44:16] Pennatula [15:45:06] perhaps aculeata or phosphorea [15:45:35] @Ken Thanks for ID. We're making sure the fish are being captured in the annotations [15:45:37] lovely image [15:45:50] whip coral to right [15:46:12] ah sea pen [15:46:25] The tripodfish notch is a subgenus character - several species have such a notch of unknown function. The elongate pectoral rays are provided with thick nerves that go directly to large extra-vertebral ganglia - evidence of important sensory function [15:46:38] agree with scott, but better zoom needed [15:48:44] The vehicle wasn't quite close enough to get a tighter zoom, sorry. [15:49:10] this tube in distance may be cerianthid [15:49:36] not Halipteris [15:49:52] Agree: not Halipteris. Anthoptilum or Prototilum maybe [15:50:29] zoom on the fat little amphipod that just landed? [15:50:36] may be also Funiculina [15:50:53] Ah - Funiculina... maybe. [15:51:00] have to look at stem close - if polyps are of the same shape [15:51:04] need to see that axis in cross section! [15:51:37] if you cannot find siphonozooids it is usually Funiculina [15:51:47] stevenauscavitch leaves the room [15:52:10] amphipods in the Acanella [15:52:47] the other one was about 20 cm beyond the funiculina [15:53:32] that large pink one is an Epimeria [15:53:34] picnogonid [15:53:42] great geologist! [15:53:56] I am so bad with stones.. [15:54:19] For folks making annotations: it is preferable to have separate entries for each organism observed rather than multiple taxa in a single annotation. This is easy to do if once you add the first organism you click on "Save and Keep time"; this will return you to the same time for entry of the next organism. This is preferred because of the way the data are stored and for searching. [15:56:04] its the large side plates that help to define the genus [15:56:29] @Tina: in reviewing some images, I think you are right that the last sea pen was likely Funiculina [15:57:51] and squat lobster [15:58:06] I am not a sponge person but It is close to Polymastis [15:58:14] sqatlobster [15:58:29] I think Polymastia also [15:59:15] what do folks think about a collection? [15:59:40] *rock collection [15:59:54] Dead hexactinellid [15:59:58] Does anyone know what types of deposits these are? [16:00:06] can we look at the base of sponge? [16:00:16] upasanaganguly leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:01:07] Looks like dead Poliopogon due to its "hairy" attatchment to the rock. [16:02:57] We got good imagery of the sponge, so maybe not collect? [16:03:18] I will send images to Joana Xavier and Chris Kelley [16:03:23] Would it be better to move a more up the mound to the better rubble --Scott Harris [16:03:37] Hello everyone! [16:03:51] @Joana Speaking of! What do you think about this Polymastia looking sponge? [16:04:06] That sponge - definitely a Polymastia sp. (possibly P. corticata) is not particularly exciting [16:04:11] upasanaganguly leaves the room [16:04:14] Thank you! [16:04:18] Thanks Joana [16:04:26] Thanks--yes, that was a question. But lower makes good sense. --SH [16:05:26] sorry we didn't get a view of the sponge base, Nolan [16:06:08] @Leslie Actually of that dead one, I saw the base. Its slightly hairy like members of the Pheronematidae [16:07:00] sandrabrooke leaves the room [16:08:23] Re tripodfish close-up. Further study of freeze frame = re-ID as Bathypterois phenax. Also, depth is a bit too deep for B. quadrifilis. [16:08:56] It looks like a nice hexact to the right of the lasers [16:09:15] @Ken Thanks. We'll change it. [16:09:50] but it's difficult to see [16:12:32] Re large brittlestar close-up earlier. The common and abundant brittlestar of the North Atlantic soft sediment slope at these depths (both E and W N Atl) is O. lymani. But that species is typically cream-white in color and the disk is not so flattened as we saw in close-up. That feature and the pinkish-reddish color suggest a different genus. The smaller off-white specimen to the left of the pink brittlestar looks more typical of O. lymani. But I am a fish guy [16:13:59] I'll have to leave, I'll be back in a couple of hours. [16:19:33] joanaxavier leaves the room [16:20:42] jamesmurphy leaves the room [16:20:52] Oh well. I have to go to lunch, so, Scott H if you see a rock that might work, please let Cheryl know. [16:22:46] Hi All. I am sorry I missed the pre-dive call. When convenient, could someone communicate the goals/intent of the dive and the plan? Thank you very much. [16:23:03] Does anyone recall the name of this squat lobster...? [16:24:23] @Tim: SEDCI driven exploration of previously unexplored area; targeting a smallish (50-80 m vertical relief) excarpment-like feature at 1700 m. Prime interest was coral and sponge community. [16:24:33] video just froze. Could not zoom, but this looks like a galathied. A morph or similar morph, that I think is often observed in the Gulf of Mexico below 800m. [16:24:48] Thank you Scott. [16:25:42] This is what Shirley wants to see! And Joana. [16:25:51] Too bad she had to leave. [16:27:02] Nolan has been getting good at IDing the sponges... Nolan? [16:27:04] upasanaganguly leaves the room [16:27:51] chrysogorgia? [16:28:07] with shrimp? [16:28:14] looks like a Bathypalmanella shrimp [16:28:31] asakomatsumoto leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:28:33] yes looks gravid [16:28:46] is that also a polychaete or egg mass? [16:29:32] thinking that the purple color is of the eggs influencing the color of the abdomen/carapace [16:29:54] great video folks- good look at that shrimp [16:30:19] just above the shrimp is an ascothoracid I think [16:31:54] Bathypalaemonella sp? serratipalma (Caridea: Bathypalaemonellidae) on that Chryso [16:33:31] did someone ask what the rocks are? [16:33:37] Yeah pretty sure that's what it was @Tim. The ascothoracid was a little fuzzy mound on the axis just above where the shrimp was [16:34:34] Jason, can you tell us more about these rocks? [16:34:36] @Scott I was running an experiment in the lab real quick. I will go back and take screen shots for all the sponge people. I will have to take a closer look at those fan shaped sponges. [16:35:07] @Nolan: I think they were some kind of Pheronematidae. There are plenty here so we will see again as we strat to move. [16:35:28] cherylmorrison leaves the room [16:36:20] Also Polymastia [16:36:43] timothyshank leaves the room [16:37:05] Above this yellow crinoid, an interesting urchin that we saw in the gulf without large spins on top [16:37:13] I believe, based on work done to the south of here, that the rocks are actually a relatively thin "crust" of dense carbonate with minor amounts of quartz (not framework type carbonate). The color is, as always, FeMn, which can be quite thick out here and even form tabular as slabs [16:37:29] Large radar dish sponges maybe Poliopogon... [16:37:45] *form as tabluar slabs of only FeMn [16:37:56] I say thta with no expertise beyond comparing to animal guide, which has many Pacific sponge images... [16:39:47] I think we saw this in the gulf, but im trying to find the name and pictures [16:39:48] leswatling leaves the room [16:41:48] OOOO!!! Can we get closer to that bunch of animals?? [16:42:09] I think the middle sponge maybe Aphrocallistes [16:42:31] Are the large sponges Phakellia? [16:43:24] Agree on the Aphrocallistes [16:44:15] @Rachel Phakellia looks very similar, that would be my guess at the moment. [16:44:32] Joana will be very happy! [16:45:09] If Phakellia, then it is a demospnge, not a glass sponge [16:45:54] @Scott True. I dont think any of the Pheronematids because not hairy basal attatchment [16:46:09] @Nolan: good observation. [16:46:25] Is there any desire for a sponge collection? [16:46:37] In terms of collecting, Aphrocallistes is on the ASPIRE list... [16:47:20] @Scott Ren thinks the sponge is Heterochone [16:47:35] Chris Mah will love this star! [16:49:15] Maybe collecting one of the "amphitheater sponges" but we have to make sure its a live one. It would be a representative of the sponges in this area. [16:49:24] @Rachel: oaky, thanks. [16:49:38] lol *Okay [16:49:42] Scott, is this the sponge in Aspire? [16:49:45] not oaky [16:51:52] This looks to me like the Aphrocallistes beatrix but others think it may be Heterochone... [16:52:10] We need to wait until we have a sponge expeert available, so pass for now. [16:52:18] Okay, so skip collection? [16:52:29] I think so, for now. [16:52:41] Pass for now [16:52:56] I will send the experts screenshots [16:53:04] Looked like an Aphrocallistes to me. Has a commensal amphipod in it [16:53:47] Plexaurid? [16:54:48] Definitely a Paramuricea [16:55:15] it was shown that the brittle stars cleaned off the Paramuricea after the oil spill in the Gulf [16:55:31] Thanks for that Erik. [16:55:43] corals with brittles did significantly better in recovery [16:55:53] and b star an Asteroschema (has pebbly skin) [16:56:05] @Scott that was a large Brisingid [16:56:49] mutualism demonstrated in Girard et al 2016 MEPS 549: 89-98 [16:56:58] and no, I am not an author :) [16:57:08] @Scott I agree, thank you. [16:59:10] That sounds like a good plan [17:00:16] upasanaganguly leaves the room [17:00:43] something pink in the middle [17:01:13] adriennecopeland leaves the room [17:01:51] Maybe the "amphitheater sponges" could also be Chonelasma? [17:03:03] can we look at the pink think at the top left of the screen? [17:03:11] *thing [17:03:38] Beyond the cerianthid Rachel? [17:04:03] if we zoom out you'll see it to the top left of the screen [17:04:16] We are planning to look at the pink coral after this [17:04:29] yay. thanks [17:05:10] nolanbarrett leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:06:45] With this new light, this looks definiteyl like hexactinellid [17:06:51] is that sargassum? [17:07:04] Maybe its Corbatellinae like Chris said [17:07:15] sargassum with bryozoans [17:07:26] Hi Shirley! We need your help. [17:07:35] Hi everyone. My computer crashed yesterday. I just got it up and running. [17:08:08] upasanaganguly leaves the room [17:08:11] @Shirley Hope its working now! I can send you screen shots later, if youd like [17:08:41] adriennecopeland leaves the room [17:08:51] OK. I'm in a meeting now (Cuba cruise planning)--will try to monitor in the background. [17:09:15] @Shirley Okay. Will do and good luck! [17:09:22] I'm neutral on collection of this. [17:09:38] timothyshank leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:09:54] We're neutral as well [17:10:05] looks like a good Paragorgia, not likely new [17:10:18] Santiago would say yes. [17:10:18] leswatling leaves the room [17:10:29] Were there any associates on that Paragorgia? [17:10:48] not that I saw [17:11:26] Stauropathes [17:11:26] adriennecopeland leaves the room [17:11:34] @Tim: no doubt! :-) [17:11:51] size?? [17:13:57] We can collect a piece of the Paragorgia after this [17:14:50] Unless this sponge (my screen may be frozen--I'm seeing a sponge) is abundant at this location, I don't recommend collection. [17:15:18] Too late! [17:16:08] Definitely a demosponge! [17:16:22] are the pilots experiencing any significant current? [17:17:18] nolanbarrett leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:17:49] kensulak leaves the room [17:17:59] @Shirley Very abundant. Over 50 individuals of this. We have also seen other sponges of this morphology that Chris Kelley thought were hexactinellids. This does not include the APhrocallistes or Heterochone that we saw. [17:18:35] OK. I didn't see it collected. Looked like a lithistid??? [17:18:48] I am very interested to see what this turns out to be! [17:20:21] Oh, that may be Phakellia!!!! (Leslie, what do you think? We've seen these amazing fans off the Carolinas.) [17:20:30] Re: earlier question on paragorgiid: there is an ophiuroid on it. [17:20:47] Rachel earlier suggested it was Phakellia [17:22:35] jasonchaytor leaves the room [17:23:48] Paragorgia looks like it might have fallen off from somewhere [17:24:10] might as well take whole thing [17:24:22] Definitely is regrowing from initial orientation [17:25:21] maybe the rock broke and the colony fell over [17:26:00] and no Evaplosoma to eat it! [17:27:47] would be good to get close up image of collected piece before it goes in biobox [17:28:44] Okay, we'll get a better look at the next one before placing the sample in the biobox, Les. Thanks [17:29:07] thanks Cheryl [17:29:18] antimora [17:29:31] just passed a chrysogorgid [17:29:33] yes, a. rostrata [17:30:07] Pretty sure that the fans with "veins" are the axinellid demosponge Phakellia. [17:30:18] For the non-scientist - is that a blue hake? [17:30:28] good one @Andrea.... we see these every once in a while, including on New England seamounts [17:30:35] Not sure about the yellow sponge. [17:30:47] I think common name is blue antimora [17:30:55] yes, they are abundant north-abundant in the canyons as well [17:30:58] timothyshank leaves the room [17:31:08] Hexactinellid with encrusting yellow demosponge. [17:31:19] Sorry, guys, I'm multi-tasking. [17:31:31] Was this what we called Farrea on NES? [17:31:31] asakomatsumoto leaves the room [17:31:41] yep [17:31:54] Maybe we were using the wrong name! :-) [17:32:07] or Hertwigia, I get them mixed up [17:32:26] Could yellow sponge be Hertwigia? [17:32:57] are folks still using sea scribe to annotate? [17:33:02] Never heard of Hertwigia but a search brings up similar images... [17:33:08] Yes for SeaScribe [17:33:22] https://divelog.oceannetworks.ca/Dive?diveId=1213 [17:33:27] meganmcculler leaves the room [17:33:34] We have seen Hertwigia before in SEUS [17:33:44] you will soon Scott.... Abby has it abundantly in here analysis of the NES fauna [17:33:56] To me, it looks like a demosponge (not Hertwigia) encrusting on a hexactinellid. [17:34:20] @scott are the ids from this chat room getting transferred to seascribe? [17:34:48] jimmasterson leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:35:07] @Andrea Yes, we're making sure to get them in the Seascribe annotations [17:35:20] emilycrum leaves the room [17:36:15] @rachel, do we need more people annotating in sea scribe or do you have it covered? [17:36:29] We got that Paragorgia out of there in the nick of time. In another year or two it would have been starfish food [17:36:39] young chrysogorgias [17:36:53] we can always use more people annotating @andrea [17:36:53] cherylmorrison leaves the room [17:37:56] @Andrea. There are 2 of us annotating. I think we're good. Thanks for asking. [17:38:20] I am adding some annotations, but hard to be multitasking... [17:38:33] @Tara Sorry. Forgot you were annotating also. [17:38:40] in case anyone is interested the T and S data suggest this is Labrador Sea Water, part of the deep western boundary current [17:39:18] dead Metallogorgia? [17:39:34] is that a stoloniferan? [17:39:46] @Les: that is what I first thought [17:39:53] Yes - stoloniferan in the branches [17:39:58] looks like [17:40:25] I think Chris M may still be in Japan. [17:41:03] Maybe Evoplosoma or a relative [17:41:20] looks like an Evoplosoma.... coral eater... [17:42:00] Definitely a goniasterid [17:42:44] That's a Geodia. Not sure which species. Just get good photos for now. [17:43:22] stoloniferans on the sponge [17:43:45] food for pycnogonid [17:44:15] back to that seastar, Chris Mah says: Looks like Circeaster poss. C. americanus [17:44:20] tinamolodtsova leaves the room [17:44:29] @Cheryl Thanks! [17:45:49] taraluke leaves the room [17:46:45] Missed that. KInda glad I did. :-) [17:50:08] robertcarney leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:50:50] Is Elizabeth Gugliotti in the chatroom? [17:51:36] @Scott She never got her password but she's sitting next to me. [17:51:54] Well done. [17:53:36] The next time you see one of those white spherical ?sponges? with papillae, can we take a closer look at it, please? [17:54:29] @Shirley: the Polymastia-like ones? [17:55:24] Yes...if they're spherical, they may not be Polymastia. [17:55:45] looks like it could be a Paragorgia coralloides [17:55:54] likely Bulligummazoanthus on Paragorgia [17:56:05] those zoanthids bioluminesce btw [17:56:24] and the one collected probably was P johnstoni, judging by the color [17:56:35] mis.spelled...Bullagummizoanthus ? emilyacadiaarum on Paragorgia [17:57:06] thanks for the zoanthid name @Andrea, I can never remember it.... [17:57:32] nice rock collection! [17:57:41] @Rachel - I sent a note in side chat... [17:58:39] Polymastiidae and dead hexactinellid [17:59:14] Stylocidaris urchin? [18:00:12] Polymastiidae [18:02:38] can anyone describe how a sponge 'operates'? filter-feeder? intake/outflow of water via operculum? [18:03:25] I gave a bit of that description earlier... [18:03:30] Filter feeder [18:03:45] Well, sort of.... [18:03:50] But right now am off the call to take another call! [18:04:00] Sorry - i wasn't here. [18:04:03] a little bamboo coral? [18:04:22] @Les: was trying to decide that myself... [18:04:39] probably S1 clade, but didn't get a close look [18:05:04] Couldn't tell if it was a bramble bamboo coral or stoliferan overgrowing sponge spicules [18:05:23] oh yeah, could be that too.... [18:05:26] Sound slike we will have to stand by for a while. [18:07:56] For those without audio: ship is troubleshooting an issue so we are standing by in water column. Updates to follow. [18:08:18] thanks @Scott.... [18:10:58] don't forget the swimming brittle star! [18:11:15] The orange sponge a few minutes ago looks like a Hyalonematid [18:12:53] zachproux leaves the room [18:16:23] Leslie: Can't chat - live - but the rock successfully collecedt is of interest. Thinsections will be fun and informative. [18:24:24] nolanbarrett leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [18:27:28] it's actually a fact. WHOI has a picture of the swordfish attacking Alvin and losing [18:27:36] great, Erv! I'm so glad we got an intact specimen. It looks like it'll survive ascent. [18:27:46] that happened to me in the JSL also! but i was in the back... [18:28:13] or was that the same dive, Cheryl? :) [18:28:27] no, not the bill. The entire swordfish [18:28:44] https://www.whoi.edu/main/history-of-alvin [18:28:55] It could have been the same dive Erik~~ have to check on that! [18:29:02] It happened to me in the JSL--the bill--and I was in the front, Erik. It's a long, freaky story.... [18:29:51] "In 1967, during dive 202, Alvin was attacked by a swordfish on the bottom at about 2,000 feet. The fish became trapped in Alvin?s skin and was brought back to the surface. (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution)" [18:30:31] Interesting that bill fish encounters with subs may be somewhat common! Maybe they're attracted to the lights and fishes that follow them? [18:30:40] leswatling leaves the room [18:31:03] ALVIN is kinda funky looking. That is probably on YouTube. [18:31:10] We just got a part of the bill....and then two days later, Don and I were diving in a sinkhole--about 40 miles away from where the "attack" happened, we saw the fish--at the bottom of the sinkhole, bleeding profusely. I no longer eat swordfish. [18:32:59] We have a high school science camp group in the ECC at FAU. Can you please explain what the technical issue is that you are dealing with? [18:35:41] not sure that we are supposed to communicate tech issues, but it looks like we'll be okay and will hopefully return to the seafloor shortly. [18:36:19] @Jim: Without saying what the tech issues are, for safety sake the ROVs are lifted up off the bottom. Therefore the ship can troubleshoot the problem and the team does not have to worry that the ROV will be dragged over the bottom. [18:36:22] erikcordes leaves the room [18:36:39] Thank You. Thanks Scott! [18:37:31] @Jim - send us some questions from your students. I just gave them a shout out and invited questions. [18:38:39] Student question: Are we in an el Niño year? [18:42:05] Student question: Do collected animals have physiological issues when they are brought from ~~2,000m to the surface? [18:44:36] Thanks! [18:44:54] joanaxavier leaves the room [18:45:36] shirleypomponi leaves the room [18:46:29] joanaxavier leaves the room [18:47:00] shirleypomponi leaves the room [18:48:23] Do you want me to describe sponge feeding in Shirley's absence? [18:48:42] Yes, sure Scot [18:50:42] shirleypomponi leaves the room [18:51:57] I have to go. See you all tomrorow [18:52:06] taraluke leaves the room [18:52:35] What is that upside-down seastar-looking organism that is on the left of the screen (pre-zoom in)? [18:52:42] I missed that last time, sorry. [18:52:50] @tara thanks for your help! [18:52:58] hi, I think the green sponge is also a Demosponge, but very difficult to say much more than that [18:53:22] likely in the Order Poecilosclerida [18:54:14] sandrabrooke leaves the room [18:56:15] :D [18:57:10] or pseudoanthomastus? [18:57:23] heatherjudkins leaves the room [18:58:00] that is just a question….not so sure [18:58:43] joanaxavier leaves the room [18:58:52] cusk eel. standby on species name. [18:59:24] maybe luciobrotula? these large cusk eels always confuse me [19:03:08] tentative id Luciobrotula corethromycter, [19:04:56] joanaxavier leaves the room [19:05:16] For collection I will offer, if we see any, Aphrocallistes sponge or Acanella or Paramuricea octocoral. [19:05:53] upasanaganguly leaves the room [19:05:56] Okay, sounds good Scott. We'll keep our eyes open for these [19:06:20] All 3 of those are ASPIRE connectivity targets, and all 3 were seen today. [19:06:43] iscwatch2 leaves the room [19:07:01] urc is Hygrosoma ?petersi [19:07:53] @Joana and @Shirley Ive been looking through my ID guides for the sponges. Do you think that the "amphitheater" demosponges we were seeing could possibly be a Poecillastra? Similar but different to the ones from the Gulf that we saw? [19:09:46] @nolan yes, could very well be a Poecillastra [19:09:58] Didn't hear you say it, but if you didn't, those urchins have white "hooves" on the downward-oriented spines to act like snowshoes as they move over the soft sediment. [19:11:22] @Joana Okay. When I first saw these, I thought to myself "Gosh, I know I have seen these or something similar before, but where and what are the???" It took me forever to remember Poecillastra. [19:12:59] I suggest we try to find a collectible with what is left of our time, rather than another close-up of the Paragorgia we already collected. But I understand video needs, as well. [19:14:11] has any sponge been collected during the dive? [19:14:42] excellent! [19:15:08] Looks to me like same brisingid as earlier [19:15:22] @Joana We collected one of the "amphitheater" demosponges [19:15:25] jimmasterson leaves the room [19:15:48] brisingid [19:15:56] @nolan great, thanks [19:16:10] Yes, there was one of the larger sponges, Poecillastra [19:18:07] Paramuricea? [19:18:15] joanaxavier leaves the room [19:18:21] Tamaria sp. for the asteroid [19:18:53] This is a potential target collection [19:19:16] heatherjudkins leaves the room [19:20:00] joanaxavier leaves the room [19:21:01] looks like it [19:23:13] joanaxavier leaves the room [19:23:50] Are the collections getting logged in SeaScribe? That had been the standard on previous dives. [19:24:14] I haven't noticed them getting logged. [19:25:19] @Scott We thought ship operations logged those. Our apologies if we were supposed to be doing that. [19:25:56] @Rachel: I think the shipboard data manager usually logs them [19:26:13] Roger that [19:26:28] was there a sub caudal notch on that tripod? [19:26:39] Say what now? [19:26:41] ;-) [19:27:13] @Rachel Luckily its something relatively easy to fix. If the times for the collection starts and stops where noted, you can manually enter a time into SeaScribe for the missed collections. [19:28:01] We've been having a rough time with SeaScribe today. We'll work on that tonight. We have been logging the sample collections here though. [19:28:12] i'm looking now - yes, there was the same notch as we saw earlier [19:28:24] @Rachel: stand by until we sort out whose responsibility that is. [19:29:13] if tripod had sub caudal notch, then B. phenax. [19:29:46] We log on the Sample Meta-data page, and can certainly do future SeaScribe entries for samples. We just didn't realize today that was something we should also do. apologies [19:30:10] no, a morid codling [19:30:22] Great= thanks Andrea [19:30:29] not sure what species [19:30:52] Codling! That is it. I can't seem to learn fish at this late stage of my life! ;-) [19:31:01] No worries! This is only your first dive! [19:31:41] @scott that is how i feel about echinoderms, but i am trying... [19:32:09] @Leslie: no worries. On the past couple of expeditions that may have just been optional value added annotations on Lauren's aprt. [19:32:20] And I need help with all of them= especially at this depth! [19:35:41] @Cheryl and @Leslie Thank you for being such great expedition leaders! Can't wait to see what the rest of this expedition holds! [19:36:25] andreaquattrini leaves the room [19:36:32] Thank you Nolan for joining us! Hope you will continue to tune in. We have a great variety of dive sites planned over the next 17 days [19:37:42] santiagoherrera leaves the room [19:37:46] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV Ascending [19:37:57] joanaxavier leaves the room [19:38:00] shirleypomponi leaves the room [19:38:14] leswatling leaves the room [19:38:25] ervangarrison leaves the room [19:38:43] christianjones leaves the room [19:41:26] dive planning call is on the expedition telecon -  1-866-617-5860, passcode: 1233796#  [19:41:48] @Kasey: I see "object Object" in your last entry. [19:42:08] dive planning call is on the expedition telecon -  1-866-617-5860, passcode: 1233796# [19:42:14] did that fix it? [19:43:39] Yup [19:43:56] laurenwalling leaves the room [19:44:25] @Cheryl I hope to be able to! I will be running around in the lab, and checking the video and chat while I have breaks. Good luck out there, have a great time, and thank you again! [19:44:26] nolanbarrett leaves the room [19:46:19] rachelbassett leaves the room [19:49:17] michaelvecchione leaves the room [19:58:37] scottfrance leaves the room [19:58:43] jamesmurphy leaves the room [20:12:34] jasonchaytor leaves the room [20:18:33] emilycrum leaves the room [20:26:17] cherylmorrison leaves the room [20:34:02] nickpawlenko leaves the room [20:35:38] amandademopoulos leaves the room [20:54:39] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV on Surface [20:55:57] robertcarney leaves the room [21:10:33] EX1806_DIVE01 ROV Recovery Complete [21:40:08] Just back - a bit too late. But, I went back through the video. Fish IDs: Large black fish with tall first dorsal fin ray = Moridae Antimora rostrata, tripodfish next to it = Bathypterois phenax; Gray flexible swimming fish that was not a rattail is another Moridae, Laemonema sp (probably L. barbatula); large gray-black Ophidioid fish (Brotulid) probably = Holcomycteronus sp. I will review these IDs when I see the digital frame grabs later [21:43:59] took a closer freeze frame look at that large Ophidioid fish, not Holcomycteronus, but Bassogigas gillii [21:46:54] kensulak leaves the room [22:23:07] jillbourque leaves the room