08/20/2015,18:35:05,okexnav,LAT :23.18527, LON : -162.45840, DEPTH : 526.7460m, TEMP : 6.68372C, SAL : 34.07364 PSU, DO : 3.19453 mg/L 08/20/2015,18:45:07,okexnav,LAT :23.18473, LON : -162.45780, DEPTH : 845.9216m, TEMP : 4.53551C, SAL : 34.36839 PSU, DO : 1.29813 mg/L 08/20/2015,18:55:07,okexnav,LAT :23.18445, LON : -162.45728, DEPTH :1167.7854m, TEMP : 3.48616C, SAL : 34.51600 PSU, DO : 1.80380 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:08:41,asakomatsumoto,Hello, the connectione of pidjin was not so good here. I was cut the connection several time. 08/20/2015,20:09:28,okeanosexplorer,SPO - Poliopogon 08/20/2015,20:10:15,okeanosexplorer,TUN 08/20/2015,20:10:24,randysinger,nice! 08/20/2015,20:10:30,randysinger,I was on conference call today haha 08/20/2015,20:10:30,okeanosexplorer,CORPR - Calypthrophora 08/20/2015,20:10:36,randysinger,my lab mates were confused 08/20/2015,20:11:02,okeanosexplorer,SPO - Caulophacus 08/20/2015,20:11:19,okeanosexplorer,CORCH - Chrysogorgia eniculata 08/20/2015,20:11:48,okeanosexplorer,SPO - Bolosoma 08/20/2015,20:12:29,Scott, I think it would be hard to dislodge the tunicate… or harder than the Anthomastus 08/20/2015,20:12:48,Scott, But one way to find out... 08/20/2015,20:15:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18396, LON : -162.45611, DEPTH :1552.5371m, TEMP : 2.56947C, SAL : 34.58469 PSU, DO : 2.39208 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:17:50,okeanosexplorer,ASR - Henricia pauperrima? 08/20/2015,20:19:58,Scott, ZOA on left w/ stolons... 08/20/2015,20:19:59,randysinger,budding? 08/20/2015,20:20:13,Scott, Looks like SPO to me - these yellow things 08/20/2015,20:21:18,Nicole, For the brown ones with two openings Amy and I saw tunicates like these on Necker Ridge, it was IDd as Styela genus. No idea on the yellow ones! 08/20/2015,20:23:26,Nicole, :D 08/20/2015,20:23:34,okeanosexplorer,was it collected? 08/20/2015,20:23:39,J.R., Intact and truncated PIL 08/20/2015,20:23:45,Nicole, We collected one, it was on a loose rock. 08/20/2015,20:24:21,okeanosexplorer,thanks nicole 08/20/2015,20:24:43,Nicole, glad I could help! 08/20/2015,20:25:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18385, LON : -162.45600, DEPTH :1545.1885m, TEMP : 2.61827C, SAL : 34.58201 PSU, DO : 2.37486 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:25:12,okeanosexplorer,much appreciated 08/20/2015,20:27:36,Scott, I think this may be the farthest into any dive - except perhaps the 4800 m one - that we have not yet come across a bamboo coral! And no fish… 08/20/2015,20:28:20,randysinger,fish.... 08/20/2015,20:28:25,randysinger,how I pine for them 08/20/2015,20:28:51,brucemundy,Yes! Hoping for fish. 08/20/2015,20:29:01,randysinger,hard to beat that Venefica though 08/20/2015,20:29:06,mackenziegarringer,The invertebrates are cool, too. 08/20/2015,20:29:15,randysinger,when they are in fish bellys for sure! 08/20/2015,20:29:17,randysinger,:P 08/20/2015,20:29:32,mackenziegarringer,:) 08/20/2015,20:29:40,Scott, NYD 08/20/2015,20:30:43,Scott, ACN or HYD? 08/20/2015,20:30:44,asakomatsumoto,In Japanese waters, Bamboo corals are not dominant species like in Hawaii. That is why, I was really impressed with previous dives. 08/20/2015,20:30:51,brucemundy,I'm thinking of doing a Mission Log entry on the Venefica, as a hook to discuss the problems of identifying poorly known deep-sea fish from videos - "The scientists and the sorceress". 08/20/2015,20:30:56,kaseycantwell,Testing 08/20/2015,20:30:59,Nick, test 08/20/2015,20:31:10,mackenziegarringer,Sounds like a great idea, Bruce. 08/20/2015,20:31:17,Scott, Good idea Bruce! The cauionary tales are important. 08/20/2015,20:31:24,okeanosexplorer,that would be great, bruce 08/20/2015,20:32:16,randysinger,Ive been asking around and looking....that might be the first video of that beast too 08/20/2015,20:32:23,randysinger,unconfirmed 08/20/2015,20:32:39,randysinger,but Dave Johnson and Dave Smith seemed to think so 08/20/2015,20:35:09,okexnav,LAT :23.18359, LON : -162.45593, DEPTH :1536.8307m, TEMP : 2.58623C, SAL : 34.58377 PSU, DO : 2.38267 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:35:25,randysinger,very science fiction 08/20/2015,20:36:40,asakomatsumoto,CORCH? 08/20/2015,20:37:49,randysinger,makes the catfish go crazy 08/20/2015,20:37:57,randysinger,in shallower water of course 08/20/2015,20:38:04,randysinger,(the lasers) 08/20/2015,20:38:52,Scott, "Chryso" translates as "gold" and is named for the gold sheen of the skeleton 08/20/2015,20:39:04,Scott, But the tissue is often pinkish 08/20/2015,20:40:59,randysinger,Florida State!!! 08/20/2015,20:41:03,Scott, NIce try Chris. 08/20/2015,20:41:14,randysinger,Don't associate those dirty Seminoles with us noble Gators 08/20/2015,20:41:16,Scott, You have one more day to get both Amy and I correct on the same dive! 08/20/2015,20:41:18,Scott, ;-) 08/20/2015,20:41:30,brucemundy,Just refer to Chris as being from Hawaii Pacific University, as payback 08/20/2015,20:41:36,Nicole, I'll remember that Randy :( 08/20/2015,20:41:42,randysinger,awwww 08/20/2015,20:41:54,Scott, Can see the gold sheen 08/20/2015,20:42:17,Scott, And "angular" branches - definitely a chrysogorgiid skeleton 08/20/2015,20:42:47,okeanosexplorer,Victorgorgia nuttingi? 08/20/2015,20:43:27,okeanosexplorer,with MOL - Aplocophoran? 08/20/2015,20:44:35,Scott, I'm guessing a Victorgorgia… best guess 08/20/2015,20:45:08,asakomatsumoto,@Scott: have you ever collected this? 08/20/2015,20:45:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18356, LON : -162.45572, DEPTH :1533.6845m, TEMP : 2.63574C, SAL : 34.58191 PSU, DO : 2.34460 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:46:11,Scott, @Asako: stand by 08/20/2015,20:47:00,Amy, Neat sponge 08/20/2015,20:48:40,randysinger,are you sur eits even an animal? 08/20/2015,20:49:01,Amy, previous one 08/20/2015,20:49:12,Amy, that almost looked like a shallow water scleractinain 08/20/2015,20:49:32,Scott, @Asako: I have collected 5 specimens of Victorgorgia from this area, between 1028 and 1440 m. But can't say for certain if it was same as the last one we looked at. 08/20/2015,20:49:39,Amy, I see I missed a FSU/UF conversation! 08/20/2015,20:50:00,Scott, You were pegged as FSU by… guess who! ;-) 08/20/2015,20:50:08,Scott, I mean UF! 08/20/2015,20:50:17,Scott, D'Oh! Now I'm doing it 08/20/2015,20:50:21,Amy, now is we can't get it right, how is Chris going to? 08/20/2015,20:50:24,Amy, if 08/20/2015,20:50:47,Amy, Wow tunicates! 08/20/2015,20:50:48,Scott, 2x BAR? 08/20/2015,20:51:12,Amy, They look a little different from Necker 08/20/2015,20:51:15,asakomatsumoto,@Scott: Thank you. the live color are same? 08/20/2015,20:51:15,Scott, The tunicates are winning the domiance race so far this dive. 08/20/2015,20:51:17,randysinger,Scott you just cnat help it can you 08/20/2015,20:51:24,randysinger,typical person from Tulane 08/20/2015,20:51:39,Scott, @Randy: haha 08/20/2015,20:51:41,randysinger,:) 08/20/2015,20:51:43,Amy, WHat are little yellow things on rocks? 08/20/2015,20:52:02,Scott, We debated that earlier Amy. I think SPO, others suggest tunicate 08/20/2015,20:52:05,okeanosexplorer,BAR - Chirona amaryllis 08/20/2015,20:52:06,Amy, Also tunicates? 08/20/2015,20:52:18,Scott, Can't see if small yellow have two openings... 08/20/2015,20:52:29,Scott, which of course tunicates would have 08/20/2015,20:53:07,asakomatsumoto,small yellows looks connected 08/20/2015,20:53:18,Amy, they could be young of the larger tunicates 08/20/2015,20:53:59,Scott, @Amy: yes, but if so the two openings should be easily visible 08/20/2015,20:54:59,randysinger,wow! 08/20/2015,20:55:09,okexnav,LAT :23.18343, LON : -162.45562, DEPTH :1528.3465m, TEMP : 2.69718C, SAL : 34.57495 PSU, DO : 2.29819 mg/L 08/20/2015,20:55:43,Amy, neat 08/20/2015,20:55:48,Scott, Great! 08/20/2015,20:55:55,okeanosexplorer,CORO - Clavularia 08/20/2015,20:56:02,Amy, HAve not seen that not on coral before, polyps look much bigger 08/20/2015,20:56:21,asakomatsumoto,beautiful color 08/20/2015,20:57:11,Amy, We need to find a rock with one of each of these creatures on it to collect! 08/20/2015,20:57:15,asakomatsumoto,like Christman tree illumination... 08/20/2015,20:57:40,randysinger,素晴らしい 08/20/2015,20:58:00,Amy, this is really a weird site 08/20/2015,20:59:04,asakomatsumoto,@Randy: :) 08/20/2015,20:59:56,Amy, Do we have ID on chryso? 08/20/2015,20:59:57,Scott, @Amy: are you referring to a rock with the brown tunicate or the purple "clavulariid?" 08/20/2015,21:00:39,Amy, CORPR 08/20/2015,21:00:55,Amy, One with both those and the little yellow things Scott 08/20/2015,21:01:04,Amy, SQA 08/20/2015,21:01:22,Scott, Is that one of the PAG w/ACN or a SQA? 08/20/2015,21:01:32,Amy, Oh, maybe PAG 08/20/2015,21:01:52,leswatling,looks like a Uroptychis, normally on a gorgo 08/20/2015,21:02:08,leswatling,see the curled dactyls on the walking legs.... 08/20/2015,21:02:14,Scott, @Amy: ha! Yes, a "loose" rock with both would of course be a magical find! 08/20/2015,21:02:16,randysinger,its definitely a SQA 08/20/2015,21:02:20,randysinger,right? 08/20/2015,21:02:21,Scott, Good eye Les 08/20/2015,21:02:34,Scott, Is she holding eggs? 08/20/2015,21:02:52,leswatling,didn't notice 08/20/2015,21:02:55,leswatling,sorry 08/20/2015,21:03:16,leswatling,has it been determined what this white chryso is? 08/20/2015,21:04:38,okeanosexplorer,no, but we did get one good close-up 08/20/2015,21:05:12,okexnav,LAT :23.18324, LON : -162.45527, DEPTH :1524.8430m, TEMP : 2.79409C, SAL : 34.56597 PSU, DO : 2.22551 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:05:47,Amy, CORPR 08/20/2015,21:06:10,Scott, COR cup in background 08/20/2015,21:06:42,randysinger,Asako was saying bamboo corals were less common off Japan...I wonder if its the same here? 08/20/2015,21:06:49,randysinger,unless I misread that 08/20/2015,21:07:32,Scott, Bamboo corals have been extremely common and abundant on most previous dives, but not today… 08/20/2015,21:07:51,Scott, But previous work I've done around Hawaiian Is and Geologist Seamounts... 08/20/2015,21:07:58,Scott, there are plenty of bamboo corals 08/20/2015,21:08:03,Amy, Depends somewhat on depth and location if bamboos are dominant. At precious corals depths, coralliids and primnoids cdominate. 08/20/2015,21:08:13,Scott, Agree with Amy 08/20/2015,21:08:18,randysinger,hmm interesting 08/20/2015,21:08:23,randysinger,hypothesis? 08/20/2015,21:08:45,randysinger,for the absence in this area 08/20/2015,21:08:53,Scott, Oh, we're going to find them today! ;-) 08/20/2015,21:09:03,Amy, That has a differnt morphology than the previous CORPR 08/20/2015,21:09:03,randysinger,I thought 1,500m was common for out dives 08/20/2015,21:09:06,Amy, worth a zom 08/20/2015,21:09:08,randysinger,*our 08/20/2015,21:09:37,Scott, @Randy: I think we've had more dives deeper than 1500, but yes we have been at this depth a few times 08/20/2015,21:09:39,okeanosexplorer,Calyptrophora? 08/20/2015,21:09:52,Amy, Could be... 08/20/2015,21:10:01,okeanosexplorer,most of our dives have been at 2000-2200 08/20/2015,21:10:48,asakomatsumoto,Yes we have bamboos for deep-water but it still not so much abondant. 08/20/2015,21:11:01,Amy, polyps seem up on this one, and seemed down or horizontal on last one 08/20/2015,21:11:19,Scott, So the hypothesis thta needs explaining is why they were SO abundant in some other locations... 08/20/2015,21:11:35,Amy, Calyptrophora or paracalyptrophora I would say 08/20/2015,21:12:09,randysinger,@Scott and Amy cool info! 08/20/2015,21:12:22,Scott, I go with Calyptrophora 08/20/2015,21:12:33,leswatling,So Japan is more like the Aleutians, where there were bamboos but no as abundant as we saw here in deeper water 08/20/2015,21:12:35,Scott, Polyps up... 08/20/2015,21:13:02,asakomatsumoto,I agree with Calyptrophora. 08/20/2015,21:13:09,Scott, According to Cairns & Bayer, Paracalyptrophora calyces always directed downward 08/20/2015,21:13:38,leswatling,but that;s when they are contracted... 08/20/2015,21:13:41,asakomatsumoto,@Scott: agree. Paracalyptrophora polyps downward. 08/20/2015,21:14:01,Scott, Aleutions owned by acanthogorgiids, at least if you believe Calcigorgia is an acanthogorgiid (I don't) 08/20/2015,21:14:17,leswatling,haha.... yeah 08/20/2015,21:14:33,asakomatsumoto,I have seen some trancect or dives at Guam. and there are also very few Bamboos. 08/20/2015,21:14:42,Scott, @Les: agree, but these polyps were directed so far up I can't believe they would appress downward 08/20/2015,21:14:44,okeanosexplorer,any ID, les? 08/20/2015,21:14:44,leswatling,too many polyps.... can't see the branching pattern 08/20/2015,21:15:09,okexnav,LAT :23.18304, LON : -162.45535, DEPTH :1519.8884m, TEMP : 2.87094C, SAL : 34.56329 PSU, DO : 2.17229 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:15:25,leswatling,very thick axis which is unusual 08/20/2015,21:15:32,randysinger,@Asako and coral folks maybe current effects settlement? 08/20/2015,21:16:04,randysinger,in that if its too high bamboos have aharder time settling? (or is that crazy) 08/20/2015,21:16:08,Scott, Current certainly affects settlement, and post-settlement survival 08/20/2015,21:16:08,randysinger,im just spitballing here 08/20/2015,21:16:38,Scott, We've seen bamboos in some pretty high current areas so I wouldn't say that is the only explanation. 08/20/2015,21:16:45,randysinger,ok cool 08/20/2015,21:16:48,Scott, Current doesn't seem too strong here... 08/20/2015,21:17:07,leswatling,definitely there is a patchiness issue 08/20/2015,21:17:51,leswatling,nice shot, but still a nystery. Azis is very thick 08/20/2015,21:18:17,asakomatsumoto,@Randy: Yes. but I don't know much about the difference between species. 08/20/2015,21:18:22,Scott, anemones or eggs on a few branches 08/20/2015,21:18:51,brucemundy,Ouch! I have another obligation in the morning until about 10 am, so I will miss the early part of the mesophotic dive. 08/20/2015,21:19:25,asakomatsumoto,nice view of axis. 08/20/2015,21:20:00,leswatling,Victorgorgia? 08/20/2015,21:20:19,Scott, Agree Daniel. This isn't a stoloniferous form 08/20/2015,21:20:52,Scott, As always, purple down here is a beautifully striking color 08/20/2015,21:21:46,Scott, Whatever those little yellow things are, they sure are abundant and they sure like to form queues. 08/20/2015,21:22:30,leswatling,I wonder if they are sponge... 08/20/2015,21:23:19,Scott, Great little hydromedusae! 08/20/2015,21:24:12,Scott, @Les: that has been the debate, as noted earlier, bracketing the entire Kingdom Animalia - sponge or chordate?! 08/20/2015,21:24:45,okeanosexplorer,FSH 08/20/2015,21:24:46,randysinger,Ophiidid 08/20/2015,21:24:52,randysinger,actually 08/20/2015,21:24:58,leswatling,I presume there is a nice frame grab of a close up shot. 08/20/2015,21:25:00,randysinger,might be a Liparid 08/20/2015,21:25:10,okexnav,LAT :23.18289, LON : -162.45514, DEPTH :1511.0072m, TEMP : 2.93986C, SAL : 34.55943 PSU, DO : 2.13953 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:25:16,mackenziegarringer,Not a liparid 08/20/2015,21:25:16,brucemundy,Missed it 08/20/2015,21:25:36,brucemundy,We've got visitors here again 08/20/2015,21:26:03,randysinger,I agree Mackenzie 08/20/2015,21:26:49,mackenziegarringer,We'll have to go back to get a better look for genus, but it sure looked ophidiidy to me. 08/20/2015,21:27:01,randysinger,exactly 08/20/2015,21:27:18,Scott, @Les: not close enough, at least not while I was frame grabbing! 08/20/2015,21:27:20,randysinger,it had a caudal fin and some pelvis near the head 08/20/2015,21:27:57,randysinger,rocks seem much larger here 08/20/2015,21:28:00,randysinger,anyone else agree? 08/20/2015,21:29:32,Scott, ACN 08/20/2015,21:30:04,Scott, Is this a "pom-pom" type? 08/20/2015,21:30:07,randysinger,I call it the "koosh ball" anemone 08/20/2015,21:30:20,Scott, Thats good Randy! 08/20/2015,21:30:40,leswatling,nie hydroids on the rock to the side 08/20/2015,21:31:05,Scott, Yes: Liponema brevicornis is a species of sea anemone in the Actiniidae family, commonly known as the pom-pom anemone or the tentacle shedding anemone. 08/20/2015,21:31:32,Scott, Note: I'm not implying that was "brevicornis" 08/20/2015,21:31:41,Scott, The comment was for the "pom-pom" part 08/20/2015,21:32:00,leswatling,zonathids on the rock 08/20/2015,21:32:19,Scott, ZOA stolons and CORO clavularid stolons 08/20/2015,21:32:23,Amy, ZOA I think 08/20/2015,21:32:44,leswatling,sand encrusted zoanthid 08/20/2015,21:33:20,randysinger,Scotts got all the cool factoids 08/20/2015,21:33:46,leswatling,they all do, in a way.... 08/20/2015,21:34:46,Scott, Hey! You got it right! ;-) 08/20/2015,21:34:55,Scott, So it was Amy's turn today… 08/20/2015,21:35:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18274, LON : -162.45500, DEPTH :1510.2191m, TEMP : 2.96071C, SAL : 34.55776 PSU, DO : 2.10818 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:35:38,leswatling,there were stalked barnacles earlier, all scalpellids 08/20/2015,21:40:43,randysinger,great! 08/20/2015,21:41:38,leswatling,too bad, no yellow things.... 08/20/2015,21:42:52,okeanosexplorer,collected rock, SPEC01GEO, 1516m, -162.45501, 23.18279 08/20/2015,21:43:34,randysinger,anyone else lost video 08/20/2015,21:43:35,Scott, Video frozen, telecon gone... 08/20/2015,21:43:38,randysinger,kk 08/20/2015,21:43:40,leswatling,freeze both video and audio.... there were several small ones before but this one long 08/20/2015,21:43:52,Scott, telecon back 08/20/2015,21:44:01,Scott, video back 08/20/2015,21:44:23,asakomatsumoto,video stopped 08/20/2015,21:44:31,asakomatsumoto,back 08/20/2015,21:44:34,okeanosexplorer,you are cutting out scott 08/20/2015,21:45:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18278, LON : -162.45505, DEPTH :1512.5932m, TEMP : 3.01245C, SAL : 34.55587 PSU, DO : 2.08770 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:45:18,Scott, HYD corymorphid like 08/20/2015,21:45:32,leswatling,branchiocerianthus 08/20/2015,21:45:48,leswatling,attached solitary hydroid 08/20/2015,21:46:17,asakomatsumoto,Branchiocerianthus imperator? 08/20/2015,21:46:36,leswatling,something close to that 08/20/2015,21:46:45,asakomatsumoto,not sure for the species sorry. 08/20/2015,21:47:08,Amy, CRI 08/20/2015,21:47:17,leswatling,Asako agrees 08/20/2015,21:47:26,Scott, Branchiocerianthus imperator is a corymorphid 08/20/2015,21:51:18,randysinger,I bet its Left to Right 08/20/2015,21:51:23,randysinger,from where we are facing 08/20/2015,21:51:27,randysinger,look at the marine snow 08/20/2015,21:51:37,randysinger,(the current) 08/20/2015,21:53:46,Roland, How has the conference call been today. Send directly to me in chat rather than the group chat 08/20/2015,21:54:30,okeanosexplorer,FSH 08/20/2015,21:54:33,brucemundy,FSH 08/20/2015,21:54:43,Amy, CORPR 08/20/2015,21:54:48,brucemundy,Synaphobranchidae 08/20/2015,21:54:50,randysinger,I go to the restroom and a FSH comes 08/20/2015,21:55:09,okexnav,LAT :23.18307, LON : -162.45515, DEPTH :1521.0131m, TEMP : 2.68197C, SAL : 34.57694 PSU, DO : 2.34319 mg/L 08/20/2015,21:55:46,mackenziegarringer,Synaphobranchus brevidorsalis? 08/20/2015,21:55:59,brucemundy,Dorsal-fin origin is far back. It looks most like S. brevidorsalis to me. 08/20/2015,21:56:05,mackenziegarringer,I agree. 08/20/2015,21:57:53,randysinger,Ctenophore I think jsut drifted by 08/20/2015,21:58:42,okeanosexplorer,depth = 1529m 08/20/2015,22:01:09,randysinger,:) I love the pilots 08/20/2015,22:01:22,randysinger,FSH 08/20/2015,22:01:23,randysinger,center 08/20/2015,22:01:27,okeanosexplorer,FSH 08/20/2015,22:01:30,randysinger,might be another cutthroat 08/20/2015,22:02:44,mackenziegarringer,Any speculation on that behavior? 08/20/2015,22:03:04,randysinger,2 ideas: 08/20/2015,22:03:13,randysinger,defense posture agains the lights/ROV 08/20/2015,22:03:18,Scott, :-( 08/20/2015,22:03:22,mackenziegarringer,Yeah, likely. 08/20/2015,22:03:25,randysinger,or 08/20/2015,22:03:33,randysinger,repiration while fighting current 08/20/2015,22:03:51,randysinger,lost video 08/20/2015,22:03:55,randysinger,and conference call maybe 08/20/2015,22:03:56,brucemundy,The darker ventral body, gill area, and lower head is supposed to be more characteristic of Synaphobranchus than Histiobranchus, according to information in the Fishes of the Western North Atlantic eel volume. 08/20/2015,22:04:42,randysinger,I agree Bruce dont think it was Histiobrachnus 08/20/2015,22:04:47,Amy, CORI 08/20/2015,22:04:51,Amy, with OPH 08/20/2015,22:04:52,randysinger,*branchus 08/20/2015,22:05:09,okexnav,LAT :23.18297, LON : -162.45506, DEPTH :1524.8675m, TEMP : 2.59224C, SAL : 34.58730 PSU, DO : 2.37510 mg/L 08/20/2015,22:07:00,Scott, Video stutter freezing... 08/20/2015,22:07:58,asakomatsumoto,video frozen several times... 08/20/2015,22:08:02,randysinger,yup 08/20/2015,22:08:11,mackenziegarringer,Also frozen at UH ECC 08/20/2015,22:08:13,iscwatch,same at ISC 08/20/2015,22:09:55,Scott, Complete video freeze and telecon freeze 08/20/2015,22:10:00,Amy, same here 08/20/2015,22:10:13,asakomatsumoto,same hre 08/20/2015,22:10:16,asakomatsumoto,*here 08/20/2015,22:10:21,randysinger,yup 08/20/2015,22:10:31,brucemundy,Video frozen here 08/20/2015,22:11:59,asakomatsumoto,video back 08/20/2015,22:12:34,randysinger,here too 08/20/2015,22:12:54,Scott, Video & telecon back 08/20/2015,22:13:05,brucemundy,Missed the fish, though 08/20/2015,22:13:25,randysinger,it was the same cutthroat 08/20/2015,22:13:31,randysinger,it just circled back 08/20/2015,22:13:38,randysinger,im 90% sure 08/20/2015,22:13:46,randysinger,video dowwwwn 08/20/2015,22:15:27,asakomatsumoto,back and frozen and back now 08/20/2015,22:18:41,brucemundy,I think that all of my Synaphobranchus identification guesses need review. The more that I look at the differences described in the literature, and the more individuals that we see, the less certain I become abouit my guesses. 08/20/2015,22:19:08,randysinger,Bruce dont feel bad (as you know) they are a terribly hard group to ID 08/20/2015,22:19:23,randysinger,some species even use vomer patches, vertebrae and raker counts 08/20/2015,22:19:29,randysinger,something we cant see 08/20/2015,22:19:52,Scott, telecon back 08/20/2015,22:21:11,brucemundy,At least with specimens of the leptocephali, the vertebral (e.g., myomere counts) are relatively easy. I've collected a few ilyophine leptos here in Hawaii, but I've never collected a synaphobranchine. 08/20/2015,22:21:32,Scott, Well said Randy. 08/20/2015,22:23:27,Scott, telecon and video and audio breaking up 08/20/2015,22:23:31,randysinger,yup 08/20/2015,22:25:07,okexnav,LAT :23.18338, LON : -162.45471, DEPTH :1509.7261m, TEMP : 2.61164C, SAL : 34.58247 PSU, DO : 2.34892 mg/L 08/20/2015,22:32:30,randysinger,anyone else lose feed? 08/20/2015,22:34:27,asakomatsumoto,video totally interrpted 08/20/2015,22:34:32,Scott, Yes Randy. 08/20/2015,22:34:43,Scott, Couldn't tell at first because it was midwater! 08/20/2015,22:35:03,brucemundy,No video at the IRC. We have the telecon and chat room, though 08/20/2015,22:35:12,Scott, Video stuttering back slowly 08/20/2015,22:35:24,brucemundy,Video coming back but very intermittent. 08/20/2015,22:35:25,randysinger,wow my chat jsut stuttered 08/20/2015,22:36:00,asakomatsumoto,video choppy but back 08/20/2015,22:36:22,randysinger,once we get up to ~300-500m one time we should turn off the lights and record 08/20/2015,22:37:05,okeanosexplorer,we can do that on tomorrow's dive randy 08/20/2015,22:37:23,randysinger,:) 08/20/2015,22:37:50,Scott, Well, at least there is the occasional demersal fish… I have yet to see a midwater octocoral! 08/20/2015,22:37:56,randysinger,LOL 08/20/2015,22:37:57,brucemundy,Tomorrow's mesophotic zone dive should be "The revenge of the Fish People" :) 08/20/2015,22:38:08,randysinger,I love it Bruce 08/20/2015,22:38:28,randysinger,right now its the revenge of the conectivity 08/20/2015,22:38:28,Scott, Daniel - remind us what time the dive begins tomorrow? 08/20/2015,22:41:30,okeanosexplorer,in water ~630HST, on bottom ~645HST, off bottom ~12HST 08/20/2015,22:41:43,Scott, Roger that. 08/20/2015,22:41:52,randysinger,I'll bring my popcorn 08/20/2015,22:42:56,randysinger,I still think the most beutiful okeanos fish was teh Stomias boa we saw in the north Atlantic 08/20/2015,22:43:17,randysinger,gold scales....red shining chin barbel.....black margins 08/20/2015,22:43:20,randysinger,remember Scott? 08/20/2015,22:43:20,asakomatsumoto,Thank you for the dive information tomorrow! I may lost most of earlier part because of time differences. 08/20/2015,22:43:58,Scott, @Randy: I do! One of the few fish screen grabs I cherish. ;-) 08/20/2015,22:44:11,kelleyelliott,A reminder for folks to mute their phones or turn off the audio on the live feeds when talking into the teleconference line. 08/20/2015,22:44:14,randysinger,nice! 08/20/2015,22:44:25,kelleyelliott,*mute their phones if they are not talking that is 08/20/2015,22:44:31,Scott, haha 08/20/2015,22:44:38,Scott, Tired of hearing us? 08/20/2015,22:45:03,randysinger,a reminder to the NOAA relay satellites: please keep us connected! 08/20/2015,22:45:09,Scott, :-) 08/20/2015,22:45:22,okexnav,LAT :23.18358, LON : -162.45516, DEPTH :1495.4749m, TEMP : 2.78115C, SAL : 34.57002 PSU, DO : 2.24123 mg/L 08/20/2015,22:45:37,randysinger,im going to mis a dragonfish or seomthing 08/20/2015,22:48:04,Scott, I didn't hear option 1 08/20/2015,22:48:13,randysinger,option 1 is wait it out 08/20/2015,22:48:29,randysinger,option 2 is midwater dive (but they are having trouble maneuvering) 08/20/2015,22:48:36,randysinger,option 3 is recover 08/20/2015,22:48:42,Scott, Thanks Randy 08/20/2015,22:48:50,Roland, anyone from shoreside can you see my chat? 08/20/2015,22:48:55,randysinger,yes Roland 08/20/2015,22:49:00,Scott, Ye sRoland 08/20/2015,22:49:06,brucemundy,@Roland, Yes 08/20/2015,22:49:10,asakomatsumoto,yes 08/20/2015,22:49:53,Amy, yes 08/20/2015,22:49:59,Roland, Turning my Laptop over to Michael and Chris 08/20/2015,22:50:30,Amy, Any options of moving perpendicular to or with the current on the bottom? 08/20/2015,22:50:43,Scott, This is a great illustration for public about the complexities of diving and how fortunate we have been that all has gone so well on this leg. 08/20/2015,22:50:58,randysinger,I was just typing that Scott! 08/20/2015,22:51:02,randysinger,greta minds eh 08/20/2015,22:51:05,randysinger,*great 08/20/2015,22:51:15,Scott, I felt somone else was controlling my fingers... 08/20/2015,22:51:22,randysinger,! 08/20/2015,22:52:11,Roland, just checking our options 08/20/2015,22:53:20,Roland, we just had to come off the bottom ~30min ago due to strong currents 08/20/2015,22:53:45,Roland, we might go back down, but are discussing our options 08/20/2015,22:54:21,Amy, Pisces usually took the option of moving with the current rather than trying to fight it 08/20/2015,22:54:32,Amy, Don't know if can do the same with ROV with different set up 08/20/2015,22:56:15,okexnav,LAT :23.18362, LON : -162.45533, DEPTH :1493.4284m, TEMP : 2.84636C, SAL : 34.56602 PSU, DO : 2.17279 mg/L 08/20/2015,22:57:20,asakomatsumoto,Is that strong currents due to the weather? 08/20/2015,22:57:55,randysinger,strong midwater currents are typical 08/20/2015,22:58:10,randysinger,especially if the temperatures are different above and below 08/20/2015,22:58:16,randysinger,or if there are upwellings 08/20/2015,22:58:54,asakomatsumoto,Thank you for the explanation! 08/20/2015,22:59:17,randysinger,anytime! 08/20/2015,23:00:14,asakomatsumoto,It just remainds me the Hawaiian big wave were affected by Japanese typhoon. it will arrive Hawaii within a week and 08/20/2015,23:00:35,randysinger,wow really? 08/20/2015,23:00:36,asakomatsumoto,we had Typhoon. that's it. 08/20/2015,23:01:56,asakomatsumoto,@Randy: I just heared that surfing people watching Japanese weather and typhoon because they can get big waves in Hawaii. 08/20/2015,23:02:16,randysinger,@Asako that's really interesting! Thanks for sharing I didn't know 08/20/2015,23:03:27,Scott, Chris: it is interesting that when you talk faintly, it has more of an impact on the conference line than on the video audio stream… 08/20/2015,23:03:28,asakomatsumoto,@Randy: but I don't know anything that it may also come to deep water or not. 08/20/2015,23:05:18,randysinger,@Asako I think for the most part at this depth the surface currents/weather do not effect the deep so much (at least from my understanding) 08/20/2015,23:05:41,randysinger,WOW 08/20/2015,23:05:49,randysinger,CEPH 08/20/2015,23:05:50,Scott, video frozen here - no squid 08/20/2015,23:05:51,brucemundy,SQD 08/20/2015,23:06:06,randysinger,we just saw teh kraken 08/20/2015,23:06:07,Scott, My bad - not frozen! 08/20/2015,23:06:16,Scott, Just very little in water! 08/20/2015,23:06:32,brucemundy,JFH 08/20/2015,23:06:35,randysinger,@Scott its a desert out here 08/20/2015,23:07:10,brucemundy,@Randy - No Gobiidae. What kind of desert does that make it? 08/20/2015,23:07:19,Scott, @Randy: not like descending in a canyon! 08/20/2015,23:07:25,randysinger,haha! 08/20/2015,23:07:47,Scott, Ah, so that is how they named the Goby desert. Thanks. ;-) 08/20/2015,23:08:08,randysinger,man talk about identification nightmares 08/20/2015,23:08:12,randysinger,Gobies haunt me in my sleep 08/20/2015,23:08:30,Scott, You meant "goblins" right/ 08/20/2015,23:08:33,asakomatsumoto,@Randy: Thank you. I supposed so. 08/20/2015,23:08:42,randysinger,@Scott might as well be 08/20/2015,23:08:53,brucemundy,Will we see gobliln sharks? 08/20/2015,23:09:01,randysinger,highly unlikely 08/20/2015,23:09:05,randysinger,but man that'd be cool 08/20/2015,23:09:38,brucemundy,They are reported from seamounts north of Midway Atoll, but not this far south :-( 08/20/2015,23:09:57,Scott, I am open to new distribution records... 08/20/2015,23:10:01,randysinger,ya I was going to say Fishbase shows very low propability here (not like thats the end all be all) 08/20/2015,23:10:29,brucemundy,We can talk about the FishBase probable distributions off-line 08/20/2015,23:10:35,randysinger,looks like deepest they have been recorded is 1300 m 08/20/2015,23:10:47,randysinger,LOL Bruce im sure we are in agreement 08/20/2015,23:11:34,brucemundy,It's better now, but I still rarely see their maps with records of things like myctophids from the Sahara or the Himalayas 08/20/2015,23:11:45,randysinger,indeed 08/20/2015,23:12:26,Scott, All these online databases are a great start but have lots of errors that need to be corrected. 08/20/2015,23:12:58,Scott, WoRMS has given me some fits… 08/20/2015,23:13:01,brucemundy,To be fair, the errors that I referred to were due to typographic errors with north or south latitudes and east or west longitudes 08/20/2015,23:13:09,Scott, Ah! 08/20/2015,23:13:31,Scott, The errors I refer to are systematics (taxa in wrong families) or of ommission 08/20/2015,23:13:34,randysinger,ya we experience geolocation problems many times at iDigBio with natural history colleciton ingestion too 08/20/2015,23:13:43,Scott, Still, very heplful and I'm glad it is there... 08/20/2015,23:13:47,randysinger,exactly 08/20/2015,23:13:58,Scott, we can work through fixes as we go or just be cautious/eyes open 08/20/2015,23:14:22,brucemundy,And it's difficult for us all to be absolutely up-to-date with taxonomic changes for all but a few taxa 08/20/2015,23:14:49,Scott, Sure! But the family issue I was referring to (the recent one) was not due to a change. 08/20/2015,23:14:50,randysinger,as much as this is a conversation I would absolutely LOVE to have I have to go make dinner for the family :( 08/20/2015,23:14:54,Scott, Just a mistake. 08/20/2015,23:15:10,okexnav,LAT :23.18263, LON : -162.45450, DEPTH :1466.9257m, TEMP : 2.80200C, SAL : 34.56931 PSU, DO : 2.17505 mg/L 08/20/2015,23:15:15,randysinger,see you guys tomorrow for fishy goodness 08/20/2015,23:15:24,Scott, Cheerio. 08/20/2015,23:15:43,asakomatsumoto,see you Randy 08/20/2015,23:15:57,randysinger,おやすみ Asako! 08/20/2015,23:19:18,asakomatsumoto,I agree with you about some taxonomical problem in WoRMS Scott. I found same species in different two genera at a same time. and to correct the problem, I had to back to Gray and had to check type materials and so...... 08/20/2015,23:20:24,Scott, @Asako: a good thing is that Leen is welcome to learn of the mistakes and correct them. Just last week I pointed out that the isidid Australisis was classified in the Primnoidae! He fixed it right away. 08/20/2015,23:21:10,Scott, Think we may have just lost conference line 08/20/2015,23:22:04,tinamolodtsova,sometimes it is not Leen's fault to get species in a bad place.. it is normal when non-experts are entering data 08/20/2015,23:23:25,leswatling,Scott and Asako, I think the Worms problem is that there are not enough editors for the Octocorallia. Many other groups have sub-editors that handle particular families that they are familiar with. Leen needs to get sub-editors for the octocorals so these kinds of problems will get cleaned up faster. 08/20/2015,23:23:31,asakomatsumoto,@Scott:You are right. mostly they are not Leen's fault at all but all pages include his name as a references. 08/20/2015,23:24:05,asakomatsumoto,sorry it was @Tina. 08/20/2015,23:25:08,okexnav,LAT :23.18191, LON : -162.45346, DEPTH :1473.1108m, TEMP : 2.95043C, SAL : 34.56030 PSU, DO : 2.11848 mg/L 08/20/2015,23:25:23,asakomatsumoto,@Scott: we should find mistakes and help Leen as possible. 08/20/2015,23:25:23,Scott, @All of you: I didn't mean to suggest it was Leen's fault. But as the contact he is very responsive when you point out problems. I think Les is correct. 08/20/2015,23:25:40,Scott, So, credit to Leen. 08/20/2015,23:27:05,asakomatsumoto,@Les: it is also not Leen's desicion. WoRMS decided it. 08/20/2015,23:29:38,asakomatsumoto,@Scott: I know what you mean :) 08/20/2015,23:36:25,okexnav,LAT :23.18084, LON : -162.45214, DEPTH :1479.0475m, TEMP : 2.49732C, SAL : 34.59329 PSU, DO : 2.35581 mg/L 08/20/2015,23:43:30,leswatling,Looked like we were back on the bottom but it seems the feed is frozen 08/20/2015,23:43:46,Scott, Yup. 08/20/2015,23:43:57,Scott, The old if-it's not-one-thing... 08/20/2015,23:43:59,leswatling,thanks for the confirmation 08/20/2015,23:46:33,Scott, telecon went out but is now back… but in-and-out 08/20/2015,23:46:41,Scott, We have no video so can't hear pilots 08/20/2015,23:47:18,okeanosexplorer,Current is too strong, so they will recover the vehicle now. 08/20/2015,23:47:18,Scott, Recovering vehicle. Copy that. 08/20/2015,23:47:43,okeanosexplorer,We will map for the rest of the day 08/20/2015,23:47:54,leswatling,maybe Chris can type some of that since the audio is breaking up 08/20/2015,23:48:02,Scott, 10 min to post-dive briefing. Copy that. 08/20/2015,23:48:06,okeanosexplorer,post-dive call 1400HST 08/20/2015,23:48:38,Scott, There will have to be improvement in the telecon to hold post-dive call. 08/20/2015,23:48:46,Scott, It is breaking up a lot 08/20/2015,23:48:48,brucemundy,@Chris - I will wait for the 1400 post-dive briefing, but the telecon is very spotty now. If I can't hear it, I will leave for the day. 08/20/2015,23:49:26,brucemundy,I'll be in late for the dive tomorrow, but I will try to catch as much of it as I can. 08/20/2015,23:50:44,leswatling,Ok, see everyone tomorrow.... today was interesting, if brief! 08/20/2015,23:52:07,asakomatsumoto,OK, see you tomorrow. I also hope to try to log-in as earlier as possible. Thank you for trying to back down! 08/20/2015,23:57:00,okexnav,LAT :23.18033, LON : -162.45174, DEPTH :1175.7033m, TEMP : 3.43520C, SAL : 34.52264 PSU, DO : 1.82269 mg/L